RE: Hello soulcalm17
July 31, 2024 at 4:46 am
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2024 at 4:58 am by Sheldon.)
Quote:soulcalm17
I already give argument previously that:
Prophecies that are true is impossible coming from human.
No they're not, and this is a bare claim, as I explained already. people make astronomically unlikely predictions that come true all the time, the lottery would be one good example.
Quote:soulcalm17While I argued with rationality, that it impossible made by human, so it must come from outside them.That isn't a rational argument, as I already explained it is an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy:
"Argument from ignorance (from Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents "a lack of contrary evidence"), is a fallacy in informal logic."
Quote:That the deity is possible.You have failed to offer any objective evidence that any deity is possible, you're just repeating the same logical fallacy over and over?
Nothing that contains a known logical fallacy can be asserted as rational, you can tack the word onto your claims as much as you like, but it is meaningless rhetoric.
1) The claims for prophesy you keep citing, are of course unevidenced subjective claims from man made books, the books contain the claims, not the evidence.
2) I don't believe the predictions were made, or that they came true as described, unless you can demonstrate sufficient objective evidence to support those claim, as the books contain the claims, not objective evidence. Though this is moot anyway, see No 3 below:
3) However, even if you could objectively evidence those claims, your conclusion "that it must be a deity, as we have no alternative explanation" would still be an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, and is thus irrational by definition? I have explained why multiple times already, and here again.
4) It is an objective fact that accurately predicting the future, even against massive odds is not just not impossible as you claim, but trivially commonplace. Again one only has to understand the odds against a lottery win to see your claim is demonstrably false.
Now I ask again, can you demonstrate any objective evidence that any deity exists outside the human imagination, or that any deity is even possible?
Unevidenced claims from a book, and irrational conclusions based on known logical fallacies, are at the opposite end of the evidentiary scale from objective evidence.