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Ignosticism
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Ignosticism
Quote:But as has no doubt already been pointed out that should not prevent you from searching yourself to find whether you have any belief regarding gods. If your search is not productive, you are without-theism, an atheist.

Questioning myself, I think, gods are on the one hand projections that mirror fundamental characteristics of societies, humans, systems. On the other hand they are an often used instrument for catching, leading and mocking people and to secure power over others.


Quote:Atheism has no positive positions. There is no implied moral order, no highest good, no secret meaning of life or common values you can count on where atheists are concerned. We are simply without theism

This helped me alot for understanding.

Quote:That doesn't mean we don't have morals or altruistic aims or values. It just means none of them flow from theism or its rejection. There is a much wider world out there to inform us on these things

Of course, these things are human characteristics. We will not freak out, kill each other and destroy everything, when there is no god to tell us what to do. We are not 'bad' ,we are human manifolds having all we need to be free and in connection with the world around us.

Quote:I am at a loss as to why people would want a deity let alone grovel at it weekly...but some feel the need;
yes, I guess I know what you mean. I feel most of them have the need to refuse self-responsibility and the fear they feel with it.

Quote:I do get angered at the extremism that seems rampant with all religions at the moment and while I understand that the majority of these people are happy to go about their religion privately the minority (10%) are just making life very hard for the majority and I fail to see what benefits the minority would hope to gain from this behaviour.

Let me join you in this anger, and let me add the anger about their conceited right to judge over people that are different from them just for feeling themselfs better on the cost of others.

Quote:IF you are looking for something to "complete you" then atheism may not be for you.

No. I am fine. I am not searching for something to complete me, I am just curious Smile So atheism, as I understand it up to now in the simple sense could not be more than a name for me. But I do not really mind calling myself an atheist or not. I guess there are people who call me an atheist, some may not, since I do not believe in one or more gods, but I believe in a kind of metaphysical everything-that-is, giving me the feeling that I never can get lost on the one hand, and the sense to fullfil my values, experience life, learn and entertain myself just because I exist.

Quote:So each atheist has look at their lives and experiences and determine their purpose. It's not as easy as getting the cookie cutter purpose of 'God loves you,' but I feel it does so much more for you as an individual.

yes, this is a great step into freedom. Self-responsibility maybe hard at the beginning, but it pays back much more than it costs. That was also my experience.
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Ignosticism - by Mind42 - December 25, 2011 at 3:33 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by padraic - December 25, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Ignosticism - by Mind42 - December 26, 2011 at 5:03 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Aegrus - December 28, 2011 at 2:20 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 2:48 am
RE: Ignosticism - by padraic - December 26, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Minimalist - December 28, 2011 at 2:23 am
RE: Ignosticism - by padraic - December 28, 2011 at 4:05 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 5:56 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 6:09 am
Ignosticism - by Mind42 - December 28, 2011 at 5:30 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 5:40 am
RE: Ignosticism - by leo-rcc - December 28, 2011 at 5:38 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 6:50 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 7:04 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 7:16 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 7:35 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 8:11 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 9:12 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 10:04 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 10:17 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 2:37 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Whateverist - December 28, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Heather - December 28, 2011 at 11:27 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Zen Badger - December 28, 2011 at 8:11 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 8:14 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 9:06 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 9:10 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 9:17 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 9:26 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 10:33 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 9:34 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 9:35 am
Ignosticism - by Zen Badger - December 28, 2011 at 9:18 am
RE: Ignosticism - by leo-rcc - December 28, 2011 at 9:50 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Erinome - December 28, 2011 at 10:51 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Heather - December 28, 2011 at 10:57 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 11:01 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Jaysyn - December 28, 2011 at 11:10 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Erinome - December 28, 2011 at 11:23 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 11:25 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 11:31 am
Ignosticism - by Mind42 - December 28, 2011 at 12:00 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Whateverist - December 28, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 28, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Faith No More - December 28, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Ignosticism - by Mind42 - December 28, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by padraic - December 28, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 6:21 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 29, 2011 at 3:30 am
RE: Ignosticism - by padraic - December 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 28, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Whateverist - December 28, 2011 at 10:04 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Shell B - December 28, 2011 at 10:42 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 29, 2011 at 3:15 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 29, 2011 at 4:26 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 29, 2011 at 5:04 am
RE: Ignosticism - by leo-rcc - December 29, 2011 at 5:26 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Zen Badger - December 29, 2011 at 6:05 am
RE: Ignosticism - by KichigaiNeko - December 29, 2011 at 5:34 am
RE: Ignosticism - by leo-rcc - December 29, 2011 at 6:14 am
RE: Ignosticism - by 5thHorseman - December 29, 2011 at 6:27 am
RE: Ignosticism - by leo-rcc - December 29, 2011 at 6:47 am
RE: Ignosticism - by 5thHorseman - December 29, 2011 at 6:49 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Whateverist - December 29, 2011 at 11:37 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Shell B - December 29, 2011 at 11:50 am
RE: Ignosticism - by 5thHorseman - December 29, 2011 at 11:53 am
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 30, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Shell B - December 30, 2011 at 7:03 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 30, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Shell B - December 30, 2011 at 7:36 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 30, 2011 at 7:39 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Shell B - December 30, 2011 at 7:42 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 30, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Cinjin - December 30, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Shell B - December 30, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Cyberman - December 30, 2011 at 8:55 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Ellease1 - December 30, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Cinjin - December 31, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Whateverist - December 31, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Jackalope - December 30, 2011 at 10:26 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Shell B - December 31, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Whateverist - December 31, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2011 at 3:04 pm
RE: Ignosticism - by Cinjin - December 31, 2011 at 3:13 pm

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