RE: Is long-term solitary confinement torture?
December 29, 2011 at 9:33 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2011 at 9:38 pm by Epimethean.)
Ah, Rev, Rev, always trying to be the lofty being. Of course you was jes' playin', and trust me, what made it worth my time is pointing out how you do things out of malice too, even if you find it innocent.
Yes, you are stretching things massively and unless you are a collective set of experienced forensic psychologists, homicide detectives, and neurologists, I think it is as easy to dismiss your contention that people like Dahmer would have no reason to kill in such a utopia. Shall I call you Pangloss? Your hypothetical society is dreamstuff. Rape would not disappear because men and women lived on equal footing. LOL! When people are taught to respect people? On whose terms? Who plays the philosopher king there, my absurdist fellow? Wasn't Communism supposed to usher in such a marvelous reality? And your contention that rape is exclusively about asserting authority over others has its share of doubters. It is that and more, and it doesn't just exit the gene pool because little Johnny was raised with manners. Oh, right: You have information no one else has discovered, and all will make sense once society has the common sense to ask you. Enjoy your pipe-dream, because that is what it is, something to dream about when stoned.
Oh yeah: Absurdism is defined as: of, relating to, or favoring blind submission to authority.
You seem to be claiming your own sort of authority, deciding when it is right to be an asshat and when it is not, when it is right to stand up and say, "fuck off" and when it ruins "a perfectly good chance" to be introduced to some "new insults." You're as judgmental as the next sod. You may as well stop pretending otherwise. If I were to come around to your silly point of view, you would be pleased, and I am sure you would play the benevolent dictator there.
To put us back on the map, solitary confinement is one answer to an unfortunate question, as is capital punishment. Suggesting that we can be sweethearts and create a happy prisonland where all will be well essentially signs the death warrants of many more inmates such as the child rapists and serial killers, who would be first to go (and rightly so in a sane setting) at the hands of the new custodes custodum.
Yes, you are stretching things massively and unless you are a collective set of experienced forensic psychologists, homicide detectives, and neurologists, I think it is as easy to dismiss your contention that people like Dahmer would have no reason to kill in such a utopia. Shall I call you Pangloss? Your hypothetical society is dreamstuff. Rape would not disappear because men and women lived on equal footing. LOL! When people are taught to respect people? On whose terms? Who plays the philosopher king there, my absurdist fellow? Wasn't Communism supposed to usher in such a marvelous reality? And your contention that rape is exclusively about asserting authority over others has its share of doubters. It is that and more, and it doesn't just exit the gene pool because little Johnny was raised with manners. Oh, right: You have information no one else has discovered, and all will make sense once society has the common sense to ask you. Enjoy your pipe-dream, because that is what it is, something to dream about when stoned.
Oh yeah: Absurdism is defined as: of, relating to, or favoring blind submission to authority.
You seem to be claiming your own sort of authority, deciding when it is right to be an asshat and when it is not, when it is right to stand up and say, "fuck off" and when it ruins "a perfectly good chance" to be introduced to some "new insults." You're as judgmental as the next sod. You may as well stop pretending otherwise. If I were to come around to your silly point of view, you would be pleased, and I am sure you would play the benevolent dictator there.
To put us back on the map, solitary confinement is one answer to an unfortunate question, as is capital punishment. Suggesting that we can be sweethearts and create a happy prisonland where all will be well essentially signs the death warrants of many more inmates such as the child rapists and serial killers, who would be first to go (and rightly so in a sane setting) at the hands of the new custodes custodum.
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