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Is long-term solitary confinement torture?
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RE: Is long-term solitary confinement torture?
Quote:Yes, you are stretching things massively and unless you are a collective set of experienced forensic psychologists, homicide detectives, and neurologists, I think it is as easy to dismiss your contention that people like Dahmer would have no reason to kill in such a utopia.
Are you? Are you any of the above listed professions as well?

If not then I deduce using your own argument that what you say about the same thing is just as irrelevant, just as void, and you should be just as upset at yourself for suggesting the opposite of my outcomes without professional knowledge.

I was under the idea that we were freely discussing things. I didnt know I had to produce certificates to discuss these things. If so then I cannot produce any. Now let me see your credentials for supporting the death penalty and life imprisonment. I clearly want to see "Criminal psychologist" or something very official looking, since that is what you place your faith in.

Quote:Shall I call you Pangloss?
nope. Im actually a pessimist.
Quote:Your hypothetical society is dreamstuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ana...ommunities
That was my way of pinching you to let you know that it isnt a dream. I was specifically talking about Christiania in many of my last posts. Last I checked, it wasnt a dream land, and still going strong after 40 years.
Quote:Rape would not disappear because men and women lived on equal footing. LOL! When people are taught to respect people? On whose terms? Who plays the philosopher king there, my absurdist fellow?
WTF?! Why would I say that stupid shit?!?! hmm...
*looking back at my posts*
Nope. I never said rape would disappear. Please scroll back up and read my posts again. Meh, fuck it, here it is... I said:
Pangloss Wrote:Sure, it (rape) could still happen, but I argue that it would be lessened.
I think I was being very reasonable. But if you think that "lessened" is the same as "disappear", then apparently we do not agree on terminology. Im not playing some kind of philosopher king here. I have made my opinionated points. Either take them for what they are worth or pishaw them.
Quote:Wasn't Communism supposed to usher in such a marvelous reality?
Thats what Marx said, or something like that. Me, personally, I dispise authoritarian communism, and I openly oppose soviet style governments. I lean a bit on anarcho-communism, but I am open to allowing a certain amount of capitalism, barter, etc. So I cant say that I am completely communist, and DEFINITELY not the type of communist you might be suggesting.
Quote:And your contention that rape is exclusively about asserting authority over others has its share of doubters. It is that and more, and it doesn't just exit the gene pool because little Johnny was raised with manners
Really? Can I see your credentials? I want to see a certificate that says "Rape therapist" or "rape professional" before I even consider anything on the topic, including your rejection of my opinion.

Besides, I never said the word "exclusive". I merely pointed out the biggest and main reasons why most of the rapes happen according to wikipedia. I've also heard that evolutionary pressure may have a play with it as well.
Quote:Oh, right: You have information no one else has discovered, and all will make sense once society has the common sense to ask you. Enjoy your pipe-dream, because that is what it is, something to dream about when stoned
Look at the lyrics for john Lennons "Imagine". You may call me a dreamer, but Im not the only one.

Oh yeah, I dont smoke dope very much. Sure, I take a puff here or there, but Im lucky if I can finish a dime bag in a month. For those who do not know, a dime bag is about 2 decent sized joints.
Quote:Oh yeah: Absurdism is defined as: of, relating to, or favoring blind submission to authority.
Is this sort of like "lessened" equating to "disappear?

You REALLY have a problem with my absurdism dont you?

Quote:You seem to be claiming your own sort of authority,
I am? By saying that the state, be shut down and that people should live autonimously of their own means forming natural order amongst their neighbors I am claiming authority? I even advocate the shutting down of the jail system, yet even then you find a way to make me seem authoritarian.
*shrugs*
Some people just cant get it I suppose.
Quote:deciding when it is right to be an asshat and when it is not,
Wait..who decided it was not...and what gives that asshats opinion more weight than mine?
Smile
Quote: when it is right to stand up and say, "fuck off" and when it ruins "a perfectly good chance" to be introduced to some "new insults."
..and even then you still didnt introduce me to more new insults. not even a "scum lapping shit bag" or "Communist pinko hitler worshipper donkey raping shit eater.". You had yet another chance to make me laugh, yet you dropped the ball.
Smile
Quote:You're as judgmental as the next sod.
Really? And here I was thinking that everyone else was just an idiot by birth. You mean to tell me these conclusions I have formed are merely opinions instead of facts?
Quote:You may as well stop pretending otherwise. If I were to come around to your silly point of view, you would be pleased, and I am sure you would play the benevolent dictator there.
That isnt how Anarchism works. Anarcho-socialism has no state, no leaders, and absolutely no dictators.

Anarchy means "Without rulers". Its a very simple definition. Explain to me how a dictator can exist in a society without rulers?
Quote:To put us back on the map, solitary confinement is one answer to an unfortunate question, as is capital punishment. Suggesting that we can be sweethearts and create a happy prisonland where all will be well essentially signs the death warrants of many more inmates such as the child rapists and serial killers, who would be first to go (and rightly so in a sane setting) at the hands of the new custodes custodum.
Im sorry, but I need to see your credentials before you are allowed to post a sentence like that. You cant poo poo my posts, demand certifications, and then turn around and do the same thing without credentials.

Lets see em bub'
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Messages In This Thread
Is long-term solitary confinement torture? - by SophiaGrace - December 27, 2011 at 8:34 pm
RE: Is long-term solitary confinement torture? - by Rev. Rye - December 28, 2011 at 11:26 pm
RE: Is long-term solitary confinement torture? - by Shell B - December 28, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: Is long-term solitary confinement torture? - by reverendjeremiah - December 29, 2011 at 10:42 pm

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