RE: On Violence
December 15, 2024 at 4:09 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2024 at 4:12 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(December 15, 2024 at 3:03 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: If I were to die painlessly then I wouldn’t care because I wouldn’t suffer.
Really? If you're this cavalier about death, why is it you're still alive? Might it be that you enjoy living?
(December 15, 2024 at 2:47 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: In general, then, I would recommend minimal force.
(December 15, 2024 at 3:03 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: Rather than being busy killing I absolutely recommend minimal force.
It's almost like you don't understand that minimal force can actually provide more suffering. That is, after all, the entire point of torture: to inflict violence insufficient to cause death, but sufficient to cause suffering. By your logic, it follows that one should submit to torture rather than increase the amount of violence and suffering by making your tormentor suffer in kind.
If someone is bent on torturing you for whatever reason, what makes you think they will listen to your advice at all?
(December 15, 2024 at 3:03 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: I’m not sure that I follow the other part of your argument. Can you rephrase?
It's fairly straightforward:
Quote:And if they don't, what recourse aside from hand-wringing before you bleed out do you have?
If someone is bent on making you suffer, and rejects your plea to "Mister, por favor be nice to me, pretty please with sugar and cream on top", what else can you do to make the suffering stop? Maybe you should try paying them off. I'm sure they'd appreciate the happenstance extortion.
You sound like someone who's never had to fight for his life, because there's no gang-members or armed robbers in ivory towers.