(January 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm)whateverist Wrote:(January 1, 2012 at 3:46 am)Godschild Wrote: I understand what your saying, no evidence, no God, belief without reason is no belief. However God has not chosen to work in a way that you think He should.
This makes me wonder how accepting of God you would be if certain beliefs you hold about God turned out to be wrong. Suppose God spoke to you and said "listen, I hate to disappoint you but you've really got to lower your expectations. For mortals, there can be no existence outside a body. All of that is bunk. I'm powerful, but not 'all powerful' which I'm sure you realize is a logically flawed concept. There is a kingdom of heaven within and while you're there it will be sublime, seemingly timeless. Nothing lasts forever. You've got to stop taking it all so personally. The universe will go on and so will consciousness of it. Everything is fine. Just play your part. Everything is part and collectively it is Me, but I'm nothing without you. It's like the old Beatles tune 'You are me and I'm in you and we are all together.. koo koo ka choo .. or somthing like that'. Dig?"
What would you do? What will you do?
(January 1, 2012 at 3:46 am)Godschild Wrote: the unexplained is still unexplained regardless of the amount of knowledge man has.
Well put. No matter what theories we put forth, natural or supernatural, the essential mysteries remain mysterious. God-did-it, big-bang-inertia or just random events all have the same epistemic value.
Then I suppose I like you would not believe in a god that chose to work in such a way. I also would not trust myself to a god that had limited powers.
However I've chosen to believe and know God who is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. The god you describe is far to limited, my God doesn't expect me to play a part but, to be involved with Him in his work for mankind. He expects me to believe in the impossible because, He makes all things possible, omniscient you know.
Quote: For mortals, there can be no existence out side the body. All of that is bunk.
That's why we are called mortals but, with the omnipotent God of creation all things are possible and how thankful I am.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
