Is long-term solitary confinement torture?

[reverendjeremiah]

So, Rev, according to your plan, we banish the really bad ones and ... they go ... where?

You still arent reading my posts. The really bad ones go to a psychiatric sanitarium.

I can tell you where they would end up: Places like Christiania, where there is no police to effect the banishment.

..and the people that Christiania kicks out winds up in downtown Denmark. Whats your point? And if you think there are no police in Christiania...yup...you have made the most common mistake about an anarcho society "They are easy pickings because I dont see any cops". Thats right man, just keep on thinking that. Christiania's mothers ran the Hells Angels out of town, and buried their leader under the floors of the local pub. Sure...go ahead and try to fuck with them.

They certainly won't go to well-regulated places, so even if you have not advocated for prisonland, by a sort of default, you are condoning a crime-land.

Right..because gangs dont exist in areas with laws and police and politicians. Organized crime only exists in areas like Christiania.

That is the big problem with anarchy: It is fine to create change, but it is useless to establish safety or order, both of which are valued components of any society in which people go to live, work and raise families.

This coming from the person who didnt even know the correct definition of "anarchy" not just a few posts ago....sure...what else do you know about it? Epi said anarchy is useless. Well then, that settles it. Epi said you cant work or raise families in an anarchy. Well, I guess that settles it then...

What else do I need to know Epi? How would you tell me to live my life?

Or are we suggesting that Crimelandia would only be for the intrepid souls who place no value on such quantities? If so, they are mooted fairly quickly as being unsustainable.

If Christiania makes you piss your pants, then so be it. Not everyone has the guts to live a true life of freedom.

As regards Denmark's sending heroin addicts into Christiania, can you supply a link or two, please? I have not seen that as much as I have seen the heroin addicts arriving there due to lack of legal interference with their very self-destructive habit.

Here you go:
http://www.amazon.com/Freetown-Christian...24&sr=8-13

Have at it.. I hope you enjoy. So far it has been a 4 out of 5 star book.

So, you suggest it is cool for kids under 14 to buy drugs when they want to? Another point at which I see anarchist thinking to fail.

Yes, because if kids to shit like that, they deserve to be put in chains and cage like wild beasts. They deserve to be taken from their mothers and forced into a new family against their will or be threatened with loss of freedom and chains around their ankles and wrists...

...but I am the bad guy because I say "that is bullshit!"

Sure kids get their hands on drugs. Is that ideal?

Who the fuck am I to decide what is ideal for you, or anyone else for that matter?

An Example that has NOTHING to do with you: Do I think it is Ideal for racists to be denied access on the Internet?

Fuck no.

Do i think capitalism is Ideal?

Fuck no.

Can I put those people in chains and in a cage as well based on my ideals?

No, and anyone who suggests as much has done precious little reading about the effects of long term drug use on still developing brains.

thats what education is about...I guess it is my fault that their brains are fucked up now? Right? I should go and slap hand cuffs on them kids for wanting to smoke a joint.

How about underage sex? Why be so lenient? Your willing to throw a 12 year old in a cage for smoking a joint...what will you do to a 12 year old caught having sex?

Add to this the fact that adolescents and teenagers tend not to possess great wisdom or self-restraint in their explorations into drugs; so, lose the illegality, increase the potential casualties-before the kids can even become adults.

All the reasons why you should through the 12 year kid in jail. He isnt wise enough to create life. He can cause more damage than any single joint ever could. He could get a 13 year old pregnant.

So obviously you should want to come down on the sex much harder than the dope...right?

So where should we lock up the pregnant teenagers? I say a special school for pregnant teenagers. Thats a good start. Then we can put the fathers into reform school. Be sure to keep a close eye on them.

Right?

What do I suggest? Heavy tort reform, a massive change in who is imprisoned and for what offence, increases in the quality of education, legalization of marijuana for adults (over 18), reduction of the drinking age to 18, increased community based policing and a commensurate reduction on radar running robocops, mandatory voting after a voter education class, and probably a dozen other things which would be mild according to the anarchist's civil cookbook.

Your heart is kind of going in the right direction. It's not enough.

Just because I am an anarchist, does not mean I dispise order. No. I have no problems with certain laws. Certain laws make very basic sense. Like; no violence, no theft, . They make sense and quite frankly SHOULD NOT require a special police unit to enforce it.

I blame the education for this...I blame the lack of communal skills that modern governments are responsible for. They WANT us at out throats.

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Please dont get me wrong..I want it to go there peacefully...it is prefered (at least in my opinion)

I would even willing to go slow with some of the changes. Lets legalize marijuana based drugs first. Lets have some fair representation in society, not just the ones who have millions of dollars.

People are going to damn well do what they want regardless of law