RE: Theists: Why do you love God?
January 2, 2012 at 2:06 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2012 at 2:22 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
(January 2, 2012 at 4:52 am)chipan Wrote: then i guess we agree reverendjeremiah except for the part where you think the flood didn't happen of course
The part where I "think" the flood didnt happen?
This isnt something I just come up with...there is not one single core sample, out of the thousands and thousands that have been cored, that even REMOTELY hints to a world wide flood....
...most ESPECIALLY a flood that covered the highest mountain by 15 cubits.
Genesis 7:19-2 Wrote:They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.
So the flood waters go 25 foot over the top of Mount everest, making the new water table somewhere very close to 29,054 feet altitude.
25,000 feet is the highest that clouds can remain clouds without being forced back down from the cold. That means the flood waters went 4 thousand feet over the maximum height that a cloud can exist at.
So were the clouds 4 thousand feet under water still shooting rain water out of them?
When an airliner is flying at an altitude of 30,000 feet, the temperature of the air outside may be as low as -30 F. The air is so thin that breathing becomes the only think that humans can focus on without air tanks.
So here is noah, his arc floating 4 thousand feet above the rain clouds, gasping for breath in almost -30 temperatures, many animals and species dying and going extinct because of the almost total lack of oxygen and the extreme freezing temperatures. Og the giant sitting on top of the arc surely would have died, requiring much more oxygen than other smaller creatures. Carcasses of animals, plant life, and humans (including pregnant women whom God drowned) would be floating all over the place...and that isnt even counting the pressure of the rain fall.
In order for the amount of rain to fail in the amount of time suggested in the bible, the pressure of the falling rain would have been greater than a sand blaster.Many mountains would have been scoured smooth and pulverized, depending on the type of rock they were made of. Biological matter would have been pulverized into a paste.
If the Noahs ark story is true, then NO life would have survived on this planet, including Noah.
All fresh water would have been ruined as it would have mixed into the salt water. Fresh water species would have died, not only of the salt water mix, by they could not survive at the new altitude of 30k feet and -30 degrees F. All fresh water fish would have easily become extinct. Animals who were taken from Africa would have died from lack of oxygen and the severe cold. Artic animals might have survived if they were in a deep slumber. Polar bears would have gone extinct.
but sure...i "think" the flood didnt happen.
Show me your evidence for a world wide flood that covered the highest mountain...and this is a BIG claim, I expect some impressive evidence
(January 2, 2012 at 12:46 pm)chipan Wrote:ElDinero Wrote:You're saying that any dating method that claims something is older than 6000 years old is unreliable because you believe the Earth is 6000 years old.
no, i'm saying using that dating method to date rocks younger than 6000 years old is inaccurate and as a result if the earth is that age then all rocks would be inaccurate to date using that method.
LMFAO...What? There is no WAY the Earth is that young, and there are MASSIVE amounts of evidence that prove the Earth to be ancient.
Explain how the Grand Canyon forms in 6 to 10 thousand years.
Exaplain how mt. Everest can reach 27 thousand feet in 6 to 10 thousand years.
Exaplin how the moon can become so covered in crators in 6 to 10 thousand years
There are massive, MASSIVE crators around this planet. Explain how these crators can be so huge as to cause an explosion that could almost extinct all life on the planet, yet not a single one of these impacts were recorded in the bible...some of these crators can be found within miles of places where the events in the bible supposedly taken place.