(March 23, 2025 at 12:39 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's probably useful to be clear that our personal ideas about moral authority (and the contents of moral authority) are not interchangeable with the stated source of democratic authority. Democracy, as the term suggests, draws it's authority from the consent of the governed. While there may be a natural ethics - democracy is not in theory or practice limited to it. We can democratically decide to say fuck nature (human or otherwise) and fuck facts too, while we're at it. Intersubjectivity and aspiration is in principle good enough for democratic authority..regardless of whether or not our democratic decisions are fit, or well adapted.
I think it respects a fundamental fact of human nature which no system of organization can ignore (or ignores at it's own peril..if we prefer)...but we can sure as hell try!
I'm not arguing with your definition of democracy. It's still mob rule. We only differ in the level of inherent malevolence.
I have more to say about human nature, but let me channel Voltaire first. Would you mind defining your terms? I don't want to speculate.
Cheers
Hippea
Where there is life, there is competition for resources. Survive long enough to pass on your genes. The rest is religion.