RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 10, 2025 at 4:33 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2025 at 4:38 am by Sheldon.)
(May 10, 2025 at 4:23 am)Belacqua Wrote:Why would you even suggest this, when I have made no such claims? Objectivity is a scale not an absolute, I have said this to you, before now.(May 10, 2025 at 4:09 am)Sheldon Wrote: Why are you telling me this? What does this have to do with you disputing the commonly held definition of the word evidence? What does it have to do with anything I posted come to that.
If you also think that objective evidence is often not straightforward, self-evident, and indisputable, then we aren't disagreeing.
Quote:The facts which you consider objective evidence of one thing, based on your interpretation, may indicate something different to someone else.
Clearly I would not claim something was objective evidence if it was based solely on my subjective interpretation. Though again I fail to see what this has to do with john claiming science is not evidence based, or you disputing the oxford English definition of that word?
Quote:If you're fine with that, then there's no fight.Fine, now do you accept that the more subjective bias that can be removed from evidence, the more reliable it becomes, do you accept that this is primarily what the methods of science are designed to do? Do you accept that science requires evidence, only John has claimed this would be bad scientific practice.
If john has anything approaching objective evidence for a deity he's not shared it, nor any evidence of any kind come to that, and I asked him repeatedly to offer his best reason for holding that belief. Instead he went on a trolling spree, making ever more outrageous claims.