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resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
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RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
(June 6, 2025 at 5:17 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:
(June 6, 2025 at 4:53 pm)Alan V Wrote: Energy is not conscious, therefore energy is not God.

Does every cause involve energy?

Is energy self-causal?

Is self-causal a synonym for self-deterministic?

Is self-determinism consciousness?

You believe in a deterministic universe.  Stephen Hawking proposed a quantum cosmology in which there are, in fact, very real chance events.  Chance events lead to what he called "frozen accidents," which in turn lead to evolution of the physical universe, then of life, then of consciousness.  Life and consciousness, from that perspective, are not caused by determined forces alone, but emerge from chance events.

In other words, your teleology is far from proven, since I think Hawking qualified as a very smart person.

For reference, see On the Origin of Time: Stephen Hawking's Final Theory.
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RE: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated - by Alan V - June 6, 2025 at 5:23 pm

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