(June 6, 2025 at 6:07 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:(June 6, 2025 at 6:01 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (1) The observable universe is 13.8 billion years old. There's no data from "before" that, so you can't even demonstrate eternity, much less that energy is eternal.
(2) No, it isn't. Please learn what these words mean before you fling them around. ZPE is a quantum statistical phenomenon that does no work.
(3) No, power is energy over time. It's far from infinite. In fact, if energy were eternal then power would necessarily be zero.
(4) That's a contradiction.
By reduction to absrdity, I just farted something Divine.
(1) can energy be created? please prove that!
(2) is ZPE omnipresent?
(3) are you claiming that the transformation of energy is not power?
(4) how so?
(1) That isn't what I said. If you can't demonstrate eternity then you can't demonstrate that it's eternal, merely as old as the universe.
(2) No, under most conditions energy levels are way above the ZPE.
(3) No, power is energy over time. No transformation.
(4) If energy is eternal it can't be caused at all.
