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Why do American Atheists Believe in the Constitution?
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RE: Why do American Atheists Believe in the Constitution?
(July 1, 2025 at 8:53 pm)Belacqua Wrote: If I'm understanding your argument, it's that the three-branch system of government which the Founding Fathers gave us has failed to prevent corruption. It has allowed an oligarchy to take over, displacing the intended democracy.
The oligarchy I am defining is the principal officials in the government, not the shadow oligarchy of lobbyists and donor class that I think Thumphead is trying to refer to as "our owners."

(July 1, 2025 at 8:53 pm)Belacqua Wrote: As I recall, the Founding Fathers were concerned about these very points. They would probably not be surprised to see how far things have fallen in our own time. They knew the dangers of political parties that work for the perpetuation of party power, and of corporations, who benefit from oligarchy (or Inverted Totalitarianism, as Sheldon Wolin called it).

So I think if Thomas Jefferson heard that it had all fallen apart by 2025, he's say something like, "It lasted that long? Really?"
Yes. Contrary to the popular rhetoric, the American Founders are not turning over in their graves because of the misuse or abuse of the Constitution, but rather, because of the continued use of the not-perfect, but better than any other, Constitution.

(July 1, 2025 at 8:53 pm)Belacqua Wrote: So far I am less clear on the restructuring you're proposing to alleviate the problems. Here's what seems like one proposal:

Quote:The undetected problem is that the bicameral legislative assemblies are not commissioned exclusive jurisdictions of law to guard (principles of action), and that miscalculation surrendered the entire system to flawed partisanship.

So if I'm reading you right, you think it would be better to divvy up jurisdictions with specified fields of law that they are tasked with protecting. I'm not sure how that would work (if your link were allowed the article you pointed us to would probably explain it in more detail.) But I certainly agree that partisanship is not working to give us what works best for the people -- it gives us what works best for whoever it is that a particular party works for -- which is not you and me. 

As I say, I am far from expert in all of this. If you are so inclined, I'd be interested to read in more detail how these government reforms could work. In particular, how they can avoid the kind of partisanship or oligarchic-takeover which has infested our current system.

You're not allowed to post links yet, but if you tell me the name of the journal and the title of the article (without a link) I can probably Google it. 
I have difficulty convincing the law and political science review associations to review my treatise, because I have no standing with them. I imagine that they are jealous, and I continue to advance my treatise. It is very difficult to compose. I have websites where I link, publish, and distribute the treatise on the subject, but I lack the funding for an advertising campaign. I just tried searching my keywords and they are not coming up as high as they did several months ago:

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RE: Why do American Atheists Believe in the Constitution? - by Secular Heckler - July 2, 2025 at 9:23 am

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