(December 24, 2011 at 9:26 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:Quote:What I want to ask is this: Is a New World Order really that bad?Well, do not want. I would not like to subjugate myself to another.
Especially if it is out in the open for everyone to see.
Quote:Juxtapose this with a distrustful world economy where countries are constantly in disagreement (Euro debt crisis) and igniting wars (need I raise examples?).What if these "illuminati" guys are causing all of these?
Why would I want to be ruled by them?
Quote:We see divided interests and hence individualistic, selfish motivations, that hinder any attempt at global coordination (look at the UN!).We do, but I don't think this will change with a "new world order".
Quote:Would it not be relieving to see a world finally united? What's more, a world united across religion, race or language by nothing short of an idea. Would it not be admirable for humanity to stand together, for once, against our ultimate enemy: our own helplessness?No, I would certainly not be subjugate to anyone else but my own, even if it's "humanity" itself.
And I'm sure there are a lot of others who could say the same.
Hmm, I think it's safe to assume you personally favor the notion of private liberty to utilitarianism, am I correct? Then may I ask, is the "loss" of personal freedom necessarily a con? I'd argue that the sacrifice of smaller, less relevant freedoms are necessary for a greater form of freedom for everyone else; for instance, I take away your freedom to murder such that the other person has the freedom to live and do stuff.
But it IS a valid thought that they may be causing the problems I mentioned (almost forgot that part of the conspiracy heh!). An inappropriate means to a just end, I'd say, but that of course does not make that justified at all.
~We, the atheist, in creating a purpose for ourselves where there was none, are greater than God himself.~