Quote:Hmm, I think it's safe to assume you personally favor the notion of private liberty to utilitarianism, am I correct? Then may I ask, is the "loss" of personal freedom necessarily a con? I'd argue that the sacrifice of smaller, less relevant freedoms are necessary for a greater form of freedom for everyone else; for instance, I take away your freedom to murder such that the other person has the freedom to live and do stuff.You misunderstand. I'm talking in personal pronouns, but I actually mean "us" as a nation.
But it IS a valid thought that they may be causing the problems I mentioned (almost forgot that part of the conspiracy heh!). An inappropriate means to a just end, I'd say, but that of course does not make that justified at all.
I'm not sure how this new world order would affect personal freedoms, I'm not talking about these.
I was actually talking about being sovereign nations. Like, not under the flag of a single country. It certainly would not work either, we'd be slaves or worse, as the west would surely usurp this new global country as it's own.
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