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Who Cares About the Environement?
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RE: Who Cares About the Environement?
(June 27, 2025 at 4:06 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I wouldn't feel too bad, most of the stuff in the recycling bins ends up in regular trash even if people followed the rules.

@Fake Messiah

We don't have to do any of that to save the planet from cooking us, and most of it wouldn't matter a jot ( a global mobilization would be swell, no doubt).  I can tell you this, as long as we're given choices between the ineffective, the absurd,  or pre-emptive surrender to doom.... we're not going to solve any of our climate problems.  I wish people would let environmentalism be environmentalism.  Being choke tied to various warring political ideologies with additional demands and aims is killing it, both literally and figuratively.  Mind you, it's not that I disagree or dislike those other things - just pointing out that they don't have any particular ownership over environmentalism and environmentalism benefits everyone no matter what other political angles they come at it from.  Even the rape and pillaging set need a place to rape and pillage.

I am sort of addicted to informative TV programs on these issues. In the 90’s people would say that we need to make sacrifices, consume less, use public transportation more often (which is still true) the focus today is more different:
- In Africa people are collecting plastic bottles to make chairs, tables, construction material out of them.
- In the UK they are using Chinese solar panels as fences because they are available at such a low price. And in Germany people are installing them to their condominiums as a way of reducing electricity bills.
- There are also new farming methods with crops being grown next to trees so that these trees collect more water and allow more microorganisms to live on the top soil (which drastically reduces the need for water because the soil becomes able to hold more water and CO2).
 
Finally: The cost of doing nothing is higher than the cost of investing into solutions that will limit the impact of climate change. When you go above 86 degree Fahrenheit (depending on the work that is being done) you already lose 30% on the productivity of you workers. If you go above 104, that percentage can go to 60% and more.
 
In last week’s heat episode in Europe they had to shut down schools. No one wanted to eat anything. People didn’t go out. They consumed less. Tourist attractions were shot in some places. So the overall impact on the economy isn’t very positive.
 
You know Al Gore has a book called “The Assault on reason”. That’s what this is. People who care about and know about the economy want us to invest on clean energies. It’s the irrational components of our societies who want to keep doing things the old fashion (even though they know that the negative impacts of climate change is going to hit them as well).
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Who Cares About the Environement? - by Leonardo17 - June 27, 2025 at 9:04 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Alan V - June 27, 2025 at 10:29 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Fake Messiah - June 27, 2025 at 11:43 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Ahriman - July 7, 2025 at 6:55 pm
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Ahriman - July 7, 2025 at 6:54 pm
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Leonardo17 - July 4, 2025 at 9:56 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Rizen - July 4, 2025 at 10:04 pm
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Leonardo17 - July 7, 2025 at 10:37 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Ahriman - July 9, 2025 at 6:46 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Leonardo17 - July 26, 2025 at 11:00 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Alan V - July 9, 2025 at 7:18 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Leonardo17 - July 20, 2025 at 11:37 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Leonardo17 - July 26, 2025 at 11:53 am
RE: Who Cares About the Environement? - by Leonardo17 - July 28, 2025 at 4:46 pm



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