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The Illuminati and The New World
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RE: The Illuminati and The New World
(December 24, 2011 at 1:38 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: When I was a kid it was the Age of Aquarius. When I was a young punk hanging with the hippies, they were either old and jaded sellouts or young and idealistic dreamers. Now I'm older, and it's the emergence of the neural network of Gaia.

Hopefully; peace, love, and small furry animals. I read what I write, the meaning behind the words; just wanna say, I don't do hippie-dippie new age nonsense. What you are looking at is what has been mentioned earlier; the internet and the potential for unity from the bottom up. Here, we are avatars. We're not male, female, white, black, American, Chinese; we are words and simulation built form words.

This. Is all the marbles. As long as the technology stands - and we are on the threshold of tribulation, make no mistake - we can scrap these local identities and find unity in the human identity. You get talking heads on the idiot box talking about finite resource and pimping the gospel of us versus them, and all that is going to happen is war. Seven billion people - can't support it. Bullshit.

We can't support giving everybody a 747 and a harem; so we start to think such things can be earned, because we believe in paper currency based on nonsense. What's a 747 go for, twenty mil? So you take an average bloke like me, say he's taking home a wage of 7.50 an hour; assuming a fifty year productivity span; and that Boeing is twenty six lives. That's to put it in your lot, not to actually fly it or anything...

I ain't doing that math; I don't see how anybody can do that math other than by not paying attention and believing in entitlement. Do people really want this shit? No. Only a select few sociopaths. What people what, is what the stuff means. And what does it mean? I am somebody special? Human is not special enough? I think so; I just think many have lost touch with this capitalist consumerism bullshit.

The new world order of the Sith is a war for global resources where those with the "money and power" live out the downfall of civilization in their comfortable manors while billions die. They're not "evil," what they are is conditioned to a lifestyle and a pragmatic philosophy; being a "have" doesn't encourage the desire to become a "have not." Therefore even if individuals of the Sith see what I see they won't credit the possibility because it is not their nature.

The hidden variables are peak oil and chaos mathematics. If we're not fucked, we're fucked; if there was enough room to maneuver it would be business as usual and glacial evolution. I don't hate the greedy corporate type because they are futurists, economists, strategists. It's the religious mindset on top of such, with this burning people in hell for eternity crap because we are saved and they are sinners; that's the dangerousness of the Sith.

That, sir, was fucking awesome reply. All of it. And I agree wholeheartedly.

May I ask though: is it that you cannot put your trust in religious goons using their material capital in the most beneficial manner, or that you find the threat of doing so too hard to take (like nuclear weapons in North Korea heh). Or perhaps both?

The idea of them flaunting this wealth in the first place (the audacious HYPOCRISY) is probably revolting to many anyway, but I was just wondering why it is so for you.

And wrt your earliest paragraphs, I agree that the world is united as never before, evidenced in recent political, economical and social happenings. However, I think it's a horribly subconscious thing that people not only fail to recognize but ALSO take for granted. No one says "I'm proud to be human", coz we're not.

I DO, however, have a contention with your point that greed is only limited to a select few. I'd say that greed is only EXEMPLIFIED in those sociopaths you mentioned because of the capital they already possess. Maybe the responsibility got to them. Who knows? I do think that greed is inherent in every man. That is, after all, the root of many a conflict. Nevertheless, in many cases, the power of love and communion often overpowers it as an opposing force. Which is why I'd think a love for HUMANITY as a collective state would serve as a perfect ideological solution to conflict.

Your thoughts?
(January 4, 2012 at 9:19 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You misunderstand. I'm talking in personal pronouns, but I actually mean "us" as a nation.
I'm not sure how this new world order would affect personal freedoms, I'm not talking about these.

I was actually talking about being sovereign nations. Like, not under the flag of a single country. It certainly would not work either, we'd be slaves or worse, as the west would surely usurp this new global country as it's own.

Ah, I see. Undoubtedly, sovereign freedoms will be sacrificed for the establishment of a global government. Is that not the case in the UN now? But my arguments still apply to a certain degree; countries like North Korea and (Gaddafi) Libya cannot have their way for there to be peace.

Besides, the West is falling! Look at the massive US deficit (and decrease of credit rating from AAA)! Eurodebt crisis! Worsening relations with ME countries! Even if they dare try to claim ultimate authority, it'll no doubt be out of empty arrogance. They cannot bear the responsibility of a global government, and they will be challenged.
~We, the atheist, in creating a purpose for ourselves where there was none, are greater than God himself.~
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Messages In This Thread
The Illuminati and The New World - by Azazylix - December 7, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by thesummerqueen - December 7, 2011 at 12:32 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by paintpooper - December 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by Azazylix - December 12, 2011 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by Napoléon - December 7, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by houseofcantor - December 12, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by little_monkey - December 12, 2011 at 8:10 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by paintpooper - December 13, 2011 at 12:51 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by Azazylix - December 24, 2011 at 7:26 am
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by Azazylix - January 4, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by Autumnlicious - December 13, 2011 at 2:57 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by kılıç_mehmet - December 24, 2011 at 9:26 am
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by Azazylix - January 4, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by paintpooper - December 24, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: The Illuminati and The New World - by kılıç_mehmet - January 4, 2012 at 9:19 pm

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