That Trans Thread

[GrandizerII]

Why are people even talking about it.

Suppose you have two people in a room, and both of them declare "I am a woman." But one of them is lying.

What objective evidence could we discover in a test that would show which is lying? 

We know that gender is NOT determined by chromosomes, anatomy, hormones, etc. 

Here is a case where we believe only the subjective reporting of the individual. And I think this is fairly unusual, since normally we insist on objective evidence before we believe something. 

(For the record, I am not saying that this thought experiment is a likely scenario, or that anyone is lying about their gender. I'm only pointing out that objective tests seem not to exist for something we believe quite strongly.)

I disagree that gender is not partially a function of hormones. But then again, I don't agree with many others that gender is just simply a social construct. But even if we just consider social variables, one can still make objective tests out of them by probing into their life and noting down the quantity of preferences and dispositions that tend to align with one gender moreso than the other. Under an ideal situation, of course.