RE: Who Cares About the Environement?
July 28, 2025 at 4:46 pm
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2025 at 4:48 pm by Leonardo17.)
(July 26, 2025 at 12:13 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: 60% as of 2024. Still a ridiculous number in context. Thing is, that increasing number also has a context - one in which the question is, for some portion of the remainder, a political prompt.
It's that political prompt that I would say is the human cause of climate inaction - not beliefs about climate change per se.
As for trees and development - we've actually seen alot more trees year over year than we lose due to abandoned agricultural land and suburban development plans - but as this relates to forests and climate change, we plant fewer seedlings than we lose to fires, for example. So it's complicated. We have an increase in tree cover even as we suffer through deforestation. The lowest point for us was the early 1900's.
I think we have reached a point in which we need specialists to decide whether to plant trees in a region or not. Personally, I’m opposed to simply reforesting areas we lost to fires.
I don’t want to sound like track 6 of the famous 1993 Guns-N-Roses music album but this is getting serious. Yesterday we broke an 83 year old heat record here (101 degree Fahrenheit / 41 degree Celsius). The last time this city had reached 104 (40 degree Celsius) was in the year 2000. And the month of August here (in the new normal) is usually hotter than the month of July.
Nothing very alarming if you are a human here. I can turn on the AC, I can spend time in the mall, I don’t lack food or water, but what does the cattle do? What happens to our crops? What happens to water resources?
This is why I’m going to drive your attention to the book “Climate Crisis and the Global Green New Deal: The Political Economy of Saving the Planet” by Noam Chomsky and Robert Pollin once again.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5345...n-new-deal
Greta Thunberg’s “The Climate Book” is a very concise and well organized book on the issue as well. But in “The Green New Deal” there is a roadmap. We don’t need to overthrow capitalism, we don’t need to walk to get to our jobs or schools, there will be some price to pay of course but nothing that would affect our way of lives in a substantial manner. Just by taking a few very decisive steps, humanity has the knowledge and capacity to avert this existential crisis while most people and most countries will gain much more from these changes than whatever cost they will have to pay for it.
The only thing on the way is actually human ego and arrogance (and the misinformation of the masses too).
To me this looks a lot like the guys who is told to quit drinking or smoking even tough it has become such an inherent part of his personality. It’s not an easy thing, but its necessary.

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