(11 hours ago)Belacqua Wrote:(11 hours ago)Paleophyte Wrote: That isn't science, it's picking criteria that align with their ideology despite the science. Science has no problem with gender, which is why the APA removed gender dysphoria from the DSM-V nearly two decades ago. The whole "Science can't determine... blah, blah, blah, blah" schtick is nothing more than a talking point from the far right. It's no more valid in this instance than it is when the creationists say the same things about fossils or speciation.
Suppose you have two people in a room, and both of them say they are a woman. But one of them is lying -- he's really a man.
What scientific test can you apply to determine which one is lying?
The same test that you'd apply if they were lying about anything else. Is the lie somehow special because it involves something that you hold strong ideological beliefs about? No, it isn't.
