(July 8, 2009 at 5:23 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(July 8, 2009 at 5:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And it should be clear I consider that to be an invalid argument ... a distro is modular (it has to be) which confers on it a number of advantages and some disadvantages but the fact that other OS's apart from "Linux" can use the very same components inherently means Linux cannot claim them to be it's own and the fact that there are so many distro's which vary considerably in ability and quality means you can't truly make a definitive statement about Linux as a whole unless referring to that which actually is Linux (the kernel).Point is, when I'm round anyone apart from Richard Stallman, I say "I use Linux" in response to a question about my OS. If I'm round Stallman's place, I'll say "I use GNU/Linux" as I should. I guess I'll have to extend that courtesy to you in future.
You Linuxers make me laugh ... when it suits you to claim Linux is the whole thing, you do, when it suits you to claim it's only the kernel, you don't ... you certainly know how to twist things don't you?
(July 8, 2009 at 5:23 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(July 8, 2009 at 5:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Also runs on UNIX ... so not specifically a Linux thing.Never said it was.
Maybe but you wouldn't know it from the way you keep "selling" your favourite OS.
(July 8, 2009 at 5:23 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(July 8, 2009 at 5:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: To a degree yes but Windows is designed to work together from the start and sold as a single and supposedly consistent OS. The same would be true of Apple OS I guess (though less so today with OS-X).How about distros like Ubuntu and Fedora? All the core system features of both systems were built for the individual system. Ubuntu does ship with a number of external programs, but if you disregard those then you have a system that "is designed to work together from the start and sold given away as a supposedly consistent OS."
I wouldn't know anything significant about the way they are built I was simply advancing an argument on your claim that Windows was "just a bunch of programs" too.
(July 8, 2009 at 5:23 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(July 8, 2009 at 5:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Why am I arguing it? Because you jump in every time singing the praises of Linux and it irritates me ... I don't do that though I do jump in as soon as you or someone like you does.Oh the irony.
I first mentioned (with my screenshot) that I had 6 desktops. LonePiper then said "Linux FTW" in response...and then YOU jumped in to defend Windows! Pardon me whilst I laugh at your hypocrisy.
You started this one, not me.
Way to re-interpret the facts big boy ... I was answering LonePiper (at which point it was UTTERLY clear what OS was being promoted) not you!!! THAT is the point I cam in at, but even based on a casual read back, it was entirely obvious (even if unsaid) what your point was (especially once the two of you got together to smugly nod your heads in a virtual corner together).
(July 8, 2009 at 5:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: True, I responded by stating that it came with it by default, but you then go into "let's bash Linux mode". If anyone was doing the jumping and praising, it was you.
Actually a causal reading of my posts more clearly supports my defence of Windows rather than a going into some implicitly psycho bash Linux mode (IMO, typically evangelistic, you're just trying to lower me to your level just like theist do when they try to drag evolution down to the level of a religion)... I don't even want to bash Linux (though I often feel like bashing its proponents).
Kyu
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