Awty:
I’m not sure I’m understanding your point
Desse23:
That’s what I said. Ukrainian pilots are being formed on these systems in Spain, Portugal, France, the UK, the US, Germany etc.
Sometimes this is not enough. So you need French, English, American personal on the ground to help them operate these systems (or that’s what I have heard). These guys are still far away from the actual front. But technically, if one of them was killed willingly or by accident this would technically be the beginning of a worldwide conflict.
The Grand Nudger:
Still: E. Macron said a few times that he would be ready to send fighting French soldiers to Ukraine if necessary.
What is happening is that humanity is becoming less tolerant toward this type of unnecessary conflicts (and this includes conflicts like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict). In 1968, there was a revolt against Soviet Rule in Prague. The Soviets simply crushed the revolt and that was the end of the story until 1989.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_uprising
Putin (and the likes of him – that probably includes Netanyahu bu I am not so sure) are failing to understand this transformation in the human psyche. Putin is current reviving the policy of Red Terror that was initiated by Lenin in 1919.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
He has restarted the policy of invasive psychiatric treatment for anti-war demonstrators and the supporters of free press in Russia:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/russ...33551.html
I am really getting frustrated when I read stuff like that. The problem with the Soviet Union is this: They believed that reason dictated a rational approach to governance. That rational approach was the Bolshevik Ideology. So any dissident was either a western agent of some sort or a mentally unstable person. So they sent them to psychiatric doctors who messed with their brains until they died. This was one of the darkest practices of communist era social repression in Russia.
But all of this had a purpose. They stood (or they thought they stood) for greater equality between social classes and all of this was done to maintain what was supposed to be the best form of social organization that is possible to implement in this world.
Now people like Putin, Maduro or the regime in Cuba have already discarded any remnant of these socialist ideals already. And they are applying these “communist” methods of repression freely without any form of accountability. And they think they can export these to their “zones of influence”.
Fake Messiah:
… And Russia was and still is perceived as a friendly country here. But those airplanes entered our airplanes without any warning or permission of any kind. So we have the right to take them down whenever they do that. It’s as simple as that.
I’m not sure I’m understanding your point

Desse23:
That’s what I said. Ukrainian pilots are being formed on these systems in Spain, Portugal, France, the UK, the US, Germany etc.
Sometimes this is not enough. So you need French, English, American personal on the ground to help them operate these systems (or that’s what I have heard). These guys are still far away from the actual front. But technically, if one of them was killed willingly or by accident this would technically be the beginning of a worldwide conflict.

The Grand Nudger:
Still: E. Macron said a few times that he would be ready to send fighting French soldiers to Ukraine if necessary.
What is happening is that humanity is becoming less tolerant toward this type of unnecessary conflicts (and this includes conflicts like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict). In 1968, there was a revolt against Soviet Rule in Prague. The Soviets simply crushed the revolt and that was the end of the story until 1989.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_uprising
Putin (and the likes of him – that probably includes Netanyahu bu I am not so sure) are failing to understand this transformation in the human psyche. Putin is current reviving the policy of Red Terror that was initiated by Lenin in 1919.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
He has restarted the policy of invasive psychiatric treatment for anti-war demonstrators and the supporters of free press in Russia:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/russ...33551.html
I am really getting frustrated when I read stuff like that. The problem with the Soviet Union is this: They believed that reason dictated a rational approach to governance. That rational approach was the Bolshevik Ideology. So any dissident was either a western agent of some sort or a mentally unstable person. So they sent them to psychiatric doctors who messed with their brains until they died. This was one of the darkest practices of communist era social repression in Russia.
But all of this had a purpose. They stood (or they thought they stood) for greater equality between social classes and all of this was done to maintain what was supposed to be the best form of social organization that is possible to implement in this world.
Now people like Putin, Maduro or the regime in Cuba have already discarded any remnant of these socialist ideals already. And they are applying these “communist” methods of repression freely without any form of accountability. And they think they can export these to their “zones of influence”.
Fake Messiah:
… And Russia was and still is perceived as a friendly country here. But those airplanes entered our airplanes without any warning or permission of any kind. So we have the right to take them down whenever they do that. It’s as simple as that.
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