I'm giving up on this quoting lark ... at least in this discussion.
The point is that the argument is flexible which leads to a kind of technical disingenuousness ... when a Linux distro gets criticised Linux-o-philes can claim it's the distro (that the kernel is really Linux), but when they want they can also flip that on its head. I've seen this in a number of forums in my time.
Maybe you were doing it AOK this time but as I said my experience of our Linux conversations suggest you have an agenda much the same as the kind f agenda I see around forums where there are snide references to Windoze, M$ and (the worst I saw) references to those who use "Windoze" as sheep ... so despite your protestations I have my doubts.
I do (consider you a Linux evangelist) because I cannot see any significant difference between you and them, between you and the Mac evangelists, the BEOS evangelists. I mean yeah I'm sure there are Windows evangelists (and you may well consider me one of them) but I don't think they are all that common because, with evangelist attitude tends to come out of the minority and the one thing Windows is not is in a minority. My attitude is also one that tends to be prevalent in IT departments and like it or not, Windows is far and away the most used OS in corporates because ultimately they just need something that works, that is easy to use and support.
I have no idea why you had so many issues with Windows ... I just don't! Nor do any of the techy's I know ... nor (generally speaking) do my family and even when people do it tends to be because they were technically ignorant or just plain stupid (irresponsible). I honestly have not the BSOD on a Windows desktop PC for maybe 5 years. I have had it on some heavily used servers but then those servers tend to be dealing with very high numbers of users and often bespoke applications (some ported from other OS's).
In love with an OS? Jeez! I'm not in love with Windows ..,.,it's just an OS, I expect it to do a job and it does it.
I don't care if any OS copies any other OS either, I think it just improves competition and I want that ... not only does it make Windows better but it means something better might come along and if it does I'm up for it (been playing with ReactOS lately but it's a long way from release) there for it.
Just about every Linux install system I have seen sucks compared to the Windows install system.
Kyu
The point is that the argument is flexible which leads to a kind of technical disingenuousness ... when a Linux distro gets criticised Linux-o-philes can claim it's the distro (that the kernel is really Linux), but when they want they can also flip that on its head. I've seen this in a number of forums in my time.
Maybe you were doing it AOK this time but as I said my experience of our Linux conversations suggest you have an agenda much the same as the kind f agenda I see around forums where there are snide references to Windoze, M$ and (the worst I saw) references to those who use "Windoze" as sheep ... so despite your protestations I have my doubts.
I do (consider you a Linux evangelist) because I cannot see any significant difference between you and them, between you and the Mac evangelists, the BEOS evangelists. I mean yeah I'm sure there are Windows evangelists (and you may well consider me one of them) but I don't think they are all that common because, with evangelist attitude tends to come out of the minority and the one thing Windows is not is in a minority. My attitude is also one that tends to be prevalent in IT departments and like it or not, Windows is far and away the most used OS in corporates because ultimately they just need something that works, that is easy to use and support.
I have no idea why you had so many issues with Windows ... I just don't! Nor do any of the techy's I know ... nor (generally speaking) do my family and even when people do it tends to be because they were technically ignorant or just plain stupid (irresponsible). I honestly have not the BSOD on a Windows desktop PC for maybe 5 years. I have had it on some heavily used servers but then those servers tend to be dealing with very high numbers of users and often bespoke applications (some ported from other OS's).
In love with an OS? Jeez! I'm not in love with Windows ..,.,it's just an OS, I expect it to do a job and it does it.
I don't care if any OS copies any other OS either, I think it just improves competition and I want that ... not only does it make Windows better but it means something better might come along and if it does I'm up for it (been playing with ReactOS lately but it's a long way from release) there for it.
Just about every Linux install system I have seen sucks compared to the Windows install system.
Kyu
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