Married to a Christian

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I really don't think I was misrepresenting your position at all. But let's have a look and see if your argument is 'rational'.

I believe in the power of prayer because of many serendipitous and direct answers I attribute to God.

Why do you attribute them to God?

I beleive God knows what we need before we ask

Evidence?

and since he is outside of our time

Evidence?

the answer seem instantaneous. I acknowledge the fact that millions of prayers go unanswered every single day across the world. I acknowledge that millions of prayers do get answered every day as well

Evidence that the prayers were answered by God and the problems didn't get solved in some other, natural way?

You're right, that was an incredibly rational argument. You might want to rethink your challenge to Cinjin et al. You wouldn't know a rational argument if it presented strong evidence for its own existence and cause.

Basically what you've got there is your good ol' fashioned argument from incredulity. I think this discussion is fine in here, or we can move it back to the original thread if you wish.

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1-Why do you attribute them to God? Because I feel that is the author of my faith. I could call Him, Zul, Thor, FSM, Satan or anything else to make you feel better. I attribute it to the creator God I worship because he would be the simplest and most reasonable explination from my world view that would hold the power to do that.

2- Evidence for beleiving God knows what we need before we ask?
Biblical Exegesis and personal experience

3- Evidence he is outside of our time? It is irrational/illogical to believe that a creator God that created prior to the start of time would then be constrained by it.

4- Evidence that the prayers were answered by God and the problems didn't get solved in some other, natural way?If there is an answer to a prayer in someone's life it's always a natural way as that's a broad term and everything that can happen to us would be natural. Miraculous healings and events that break probability are at best supranaturalm but do not exclude that some part of the solution had to be natural in some way. This misses the point as we're not speaking about the mechanisms though, but the reasons.

If you really want to talk about evidence you're going to have to clearly define the criterea for it. I've asked again for a standard in our discussion. You're wanting material evidence that's reliable and meet a rigorous burden of proof. I know full well I can't meet that level of evidence for God, which is why I continuously ask the bar to be set. I think the standards are impossible to attain and aren't relative to the proof anyways. It would be like me asking you to think about a cheeseburger and then prove to me you were thinking about a cheeseburger. I know lots of people will have fun with that analogy, but hopefully you get the point.