You don't need to know where the bar is set, tack. Think about what evidence you would need from a Muslim or a Hindu to convince you that their choice is correct, and you've probably stumbled across what I need to believe in yours.
You say you could refer to your god as Zeus or whatever, well then why not do it? Why isn't it Zeus, apart from the world view that you already possess? Utter nonsense.
I think it's worth emphasising the point that you were trying to make, that you are a rational person with rational arguments. And so far we've got special pleading, argument from incredulity and argument from personal experience. A trinity of highly unimpressive and irrational arguments, and why you think that's rational, I have no clue. Shape up. Put yourself in my shoes, or imagine the same arguments being made by any other religious type, and tell me if you'd be convinced.
When you say you've had a prayer answered, I'm asking for something that could not conceivably have happened if not for divine intervention. Here are some examples:
You getting a bonus at work = not a miracle
Your kid getting better a bit earlier than expected = not a miracle
A cancer going into remission = not a miracle
A man's leg growing back having been cut off = a miracle
A river of water turning into blood instantaneously (claimed to have happened) = a miracle
A bush spontaneously combusting and talking (claimed to have happened) = a miracle
There's your bar. If you think I'm being unreasonable, get on your knees and ask your all powerful God to stop being so fucking limited in his powers.
You say you could refer to your god as Zeus or whatever, well then why not do it? Why isn't it Zeus, apart from the world view that you already possess? Utter nonsense.
I think it's worth emphasising the point that you were trying to make, that you are a rational person with rational arguments. And so far we've got special pleading, argument from incredulity and argument from personal experience. A trinity of highly unimpressive and irrational arguments, and why you think that's rational, I have no clue. Shape up. Put yourself in my shoes, or imagine the same arguments being made by any other religious type, and tell me if you'd be convinced.
When you say you've had a prayer answered, I'm asking for something that could not conceivably have happened if not for divine intervention. Here are some examples:
You getting a bonus at work = not a miracle
Your kid getting better a bit earlier than expected = not a miracle
A cancer going into remission = not a miracle
A man's leg growing back having been cut off = a miracle
A river of water turning into blood instantaneously (claimed to have happened) = a miracle
A bush spontaneously combusting and talking (claimed to have happened) = a miracle
There's your bar. If you think I'm being unreasonable, get on your knees and ask your all powerful God to stop being so fucking limited in his powers.
