(March 4, 2026 at 7:50 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: I agree with you Belacqua, about those two definitions of pleasure. I used to use the second one a lot in the past. But nowadays, as you can see, I use the first.
(March 4, 2026 at 6:36 pm)Angrboda Wrote: There are plenty of experiences worth having for their own sake that are not pleasure.
Can you give me an example of one?
Most surgeries are experiences worth having, very few of them are pleasurable. Kicking heroin, stopping smoking, calling the police, and so on.
Oh, and being kicked in the bollocks. A worthwhile experience in and of itself. Definitely a teachable moment.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
