What is pleasure?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Most surgeries are experiences worth having, very few of them are pleasurable. Kicking heroin, stopping smoking, calling the police, and so on.

Oh, and being kicked in the bollocks. A worthwhile experience in and of itself. Definitely a teachable moment.

Boru

Those experiences are all instrumentally good, not good for their own sake.

If you didn't gain anything positive from the kick in a bollocks, and you weren't a masochist so the experience wouldn't count as a pleasure overall, then it isn't good for its own sake.

Same applies to the other examples. They're good instrumentally, not for their own sake.

Let’s not split rabbits. The case can be made that all experiences are instrumentally good and that none are intrinsically good.

Boru