(March 4, 2026 at 7:50 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: I agree with you Belacqua, about those two definitions of pleasure. I used to use the second one a lot in the past. But nowadays, as you can see, I use the first.
(March 4, 2026 at 6:36 pm)Angrboda Wrote: There are plenty of experiences worth having for their own sake that are not pleasure.
Can you give me an example of one?
Having a child, passing an exam, discovering new meaning in your life. You're putting the cart before the horse.
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