(March 4, 2026 at 8:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(March 4, 2026 at 8:02 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: Those experiences are all instrumentally good, not good for their own sake.
If you didn't gain anything positive from the kick in a bollocks, and you weren't a masochist so the experience wouldn't count as a pleasure overall, then it isn't good for its own sake.
Same applies to the other examples. They're good instrumentally, not for their own sake.
Let’s not split rabbits. The case can be made that all experiences are instrumentally good and that none are intrinsically good.
Boru
The experience of doing cocaine is usually intrinsically good but it's usually instrumentally very bad.
The experience of listening to your favorite piece of music is usually intrinsically good but instrumentally it's usually neutral.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.
Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.
Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;
What is good is easy to get,
What is terrible is easy to endure
