(March 17, 2026 at 3:39 pm)Disagreeable Wrote:(March 17, 2026 at 3:06 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: You think that progress is when morality happens to match what we consider moral today? Our Victorian era ancestors thought the same thing and used orphans as a cheap source of expendable labour in the mines.
If you're saying that moral agreement isn't a sign of moral progress then, by the same logic, you can't say that moral disagreement is a sign of moral relativism. You're trying to have it both ways.
I'm saying that you don't have moral agreement. You have what's fashionable today.


