RE: A Philosophy of War and Conflict
August 19, 2026 at 7:48 am
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2026 at 7:53 am by Deesse23.)
(August 18, 2026 at 7:31 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote:I wasnt asking for the possibility of being wrong, but why you think you are RIGHT.
Desse23:
Quote:“Way to not address my point: How do you know that you and Swami whateverhisnameis and whteverhecookedout are correct, and everybody else is wrong?”
- I don’t. That’s what I am saying. All of the questions you are asking are questions I am asking myself on a regular basis. There are really time when I say “What if I’m on my deathbed someday and I realize that nothing is going to happen? What if they simply dim the lights and that’s just it?” In fact many spiritual teachings are actually saying that that’s just it.
Spirituality (for me) is a work in progress. As I said: Religious people have it very easy in comparison to us. + many people who start as spiritual people gradually become religious or attached to dogmas more than having active endeavors and a more dynamic belief system.
For the upteenth time: What the fuck is this "spirituality" you keep talking about? You just admitted that your "spiritual" approach to answering importantquestions of life has no methodology and you cant tell if is relusts are right or wrong.
(August 18, 2026 at 7:31 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote:You know whats funny about your reply? You werent opposed in the least to my suggestion that you believe without good reason, but "comfort" that one triggered you enough to warrant a reply to me. Spirituality is, according to you, not about comfort, but is seems not to be about having good reasons either. What the fuck is it about then?Quote:“I was asking you, about your comfort in believing without a good reason, not about others and stray dogs.”
- It’s not really comfort if you ask me. Decreasing the power of your small self, being more involved with your True Self opens new doors to life (in a nutshell). It’s not really about comfort. There are many ways to be more comfortable in this world. Spirituality is not really about that.
Why does it not bother you at all to believe without good reason?
(August 18, 2026 at 7:31 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote:...which is utter nonsense. Are you claiming that my "non spiritual" seeking for answers is not about truth? ...is less likely to be true? At this point you are just babbling, because you have nothing sensible whatsoever to answer to my very, very simple question.Quote:“What about your "spiritual" seeking for answers to "uncomfortable questions" is demonstrably better than any other way?”
- It’s truth probably. I’m not saying that “my way is the only way”. But if you are on a genuine spiritual path (and there are several of these) than it has to be something that deal with Truth.
(August 18, 2026 at 7:31 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote: / I was watching the new about fundamentalist Jews spending their lives studying the Bible (and being except from military service) + I saw these Jewish settlers harassing local Arabs. So when you are a spiritual person you may ask questions like “How is this related to God?” / If you see stuff like that and you can ask “What does this have anything to do with God?” than you are in some sort of spiritual path. If not you are being deceived or you yourself are in self-deception.And me, being non-spiritual, can not ask this question? Are you fucking serious!?
(August 18, 2026 at 7:31 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote:Ok, i get it, you are either incapable or unwilling to engage in honest discussion.Quote:“I was not asking about what your belief is, but how you came to your belief (aka good reasons why i should share your belief). Of course many people see answers, duh! Why do you think your answers have any merit?
You are talking like a religious person, but completely lack the introspection to realize.”
- As I said, these are questions I’m constantly asking myself as well. You can keep asking me expecting some response like “Because the Lord sent us is Book and in it everything is written”
/That’s really not how it works. At least not in this century![]()
I keep asking why you answer questions with "spirituality" and and why you think you are possibly correct, and all i get back is "i am trying to answer questions".
(August 18, 2026 at 7:31 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote:I was asking you about the philosophy of swami-whatever, why you think he is correct and its relation to history, and your answer is "Hollywood movie"!?Quote:“What is "energy" in this context?
Why do the ages match with centuries AD?
Lowest age starting in 1200. Why 1200? What was the "energy level" in 1199? What were humans like if after 1200 they were "basically animals and act accordingly with their animal instincts"? What about ancient Greek philosophers and their followers made them "animals"?”
- It was not my intention to debate this. But did you watch Gladiator I + Gladiator II (2024). I think the second movie is much more realistic. It is more successful in portraying the Roman as the true animals that they were. Gladiator I portrayed them as the superpower of their ages. Bringing light and civilization to the world (!).
In fact Bronze Age (before 1200) civilizations were much more civilized than Romans if you ask me. + Many Roman aristocrats were admirers of the ancient Greek. But the Greeks themselves were like barbarians if you compare them to Bronze Age Minoan civilizations for instance.
I keep asking you, over and fucking over as to why to believe this bullshit, but all i get back is a restatement of your beliefs. Guess what: Thats exactly how a religious person reacts.
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy were the bronze age Minoans more civilized than the Classic Greek or Romans? Hint: they werent.
(August 18, 2026 at 7:31 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote: /But this is just me having a chat. I won’t have the courage to repeat any of this in an academic setting. But this is still how I Think.Oh, conspiracy amongst all historians and all that? Or more of "i dont give a shit about the truth of my beliefs" nor am i willing to justify them?
(August 18, 2026 at 7:31 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote:You are so full of shit, its really incredible.Quote:“What "animal instincts" were dropped by 1900? I am particularly asking with regards to tribes in New Guinea and the Amazon rain fores who didnt even have contact with modern civilization by 2026 and how their "energy levels" could have potentially changed.
What better "understanding of spiritual stuff"? What the fuck is "spiritual stuff"?
Higher energies since 1900 and French Revolution: When did the French Revolution happen?”
- That’s the philosophy of Sri Yukteswar. He took the Hindu belief of Yugas or ages. Many before him thought that these ages lased for millions of years. He modernized it and turned it into something that looks like the belief in the “Aquarian Age” in new age communities.
But in a nutshell: Rome had to fall down. Rome 2.0 had to fall as well. The Ottoman dynasty was way better in every way than the Greek Dynasties of Constantinople. And even King Carolus was by far better than 90% of Roman Emperors since Caesar. That’s because the “energy” was evolving. Mankind first degenerated (after the Bronze Age Collapse of 1200 BC). Than it started evolving again. So after the sack of Rome in 410 AD, mankind started moving up again. Becoming more energetic, more intelligent. After the Great plague in 1350 AD, things started moving even faster. Than we had to renaissance and the Industrial revolution etc. Some say that at the height of Kali Yuga (4th century AD). Most people were so dumb that even you gave them modern education opportunities it wouldn’t work for them because that’s how they are wired. Just like Trump supporters not understanding US interests in South-Korea and Japan, these guys could not understand arithmetic or literature even with the best teachers. (Because of low spiritual energy levels)
I am asking you about the history of humanity (according to swami soandso), and your answers are about Europe (and parts of the Near East) exclusively! I may regret this, but what the everlasting fuck is "energy"!?
In 410AD 25-25mio people lived in Europe and 35-45mio in China alone. Why is some random event in Rome in 410 relevant for the history of humanity!?
20-30mio people lived at this time in Meso America. You know about fucking Meso-America and its civilizations? At the time you and swami soandso claim the "dark ages" of humanity ended, those civilisations were in full bloom!!
You clearly have no fucking clue what the fuck you are talking about.
People could not understand arithmetic or literature even with the best teachers, because of low spiritual energy levels!? What the fuck dude!? You are so far down your "spiritual" rabbit hole there is no help for you.
I am done with you. You are just too dense.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse


