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Do mimsy atheists gyre and gimble in the wabe?
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RE: Do mimsy atheists gyre and gimble in the wabe?
(July 11, 2009 at 5:52 am)Arcanus Wrote: If I don't stop soon, I'll end up writing an entire book.
You wouldn't be the first to write a flea. All fleas sharing the problem that they fail to present clear evidence for their claims. Instead of presenting clear evidence for their divine claims they merely repeat christian dogma and try to discredit the approach and person of Dawkins.

(July 11, 2009 at 5:52 am)Arcanus Wrote: But before I close this off, I want to underscore what is perhaps the greatest irony of all. His book is titled The God Delusion, and he opens the discussion with his feeling that 'delusion' is most fittingly understood in this context as a "persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence." Yet in the entire 400-page tome, he does not present a single solitary piece of evidence that contradicts God-belief! There is a lot of material that allows for skepticism and disbelief, but absolutely nothing that proves God-belief as false with strong contradictory evidence. Not a thing.
This is quite basic. The old trick on the burden of proof again. Dawkins is not the one making the claim of existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being. He is simply assessing the presented evidence for it. As you may have noticed reading his stance on the theism-atheism scale he clearly does not state to know that god does not exists. Nor does he set out in TGD to proof that god does not exist. He evaluates claims being made and that what is presented to him as evidence. For instance he evaluates the claim (made by christians) that this god as presented in the bible is omnibenevolent and identifies clear passages in the bible where slavery is condoned and atrocities are demanded by that christian god. He identifies the structural blindness of believers for these passages. He identifies the inconsistency of this claim and the claim of creation by god with the suffering in the world and concludes the evidence is too poor to substantiate the claim. It is a rather straightforward assessment. What part did you have trouble with?
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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RE: Do mimsy atheists gyre and gimble in the wabe? - by Purple Rabbit - July 12, 2009 at 6:27 am



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