Hey,
@Kyu: This is number 6 I think, promise to stop after this one...
I understand that he could have chosen any phrase... But he chose one. Please, if you would be so kind as to explain the difference between a 'test-condition' and an 'end-result'? I understand that the actual phrase selected makes up a test condition, and am not disagreeing with that. But that one test condition was chosen, makes it, as far as intent, a end result of the test. Conclusion, if you will. Therefor, we could be both right.
And Adrian. Thank you for using even more colourful descriptors of your opinion of my state of logical thinking. You already know how much I look forward to reading those. I assure you, as I did before, that I read not only the Wiki page years ago, but a reference to the experiment, and the book itself as well. It seems you are having trouble learning a thing about the person you choose to argue with. I just appreciate the irony of people telling me I am not listening in a way that makes it seems like they are not listening. Only a creature as miraculous and complex as us humans could do something so grand.
And may I thank you again, for now posting a quote from the wiki I politely attempted to tell you I did not need a link posted too. As I have said, I am familiar with that wiki page, thank you. I hope you believe me when I insist that I feel I understand all the points you made. In fact, almost perfectly, they were the same points I made. But somehow I doubt you will assume that I took the time to read and try to understand, regardless.
I am not at all upset by your disagree-al, but I am disappointed in your quality of argument. I feel like you spend far too much energy belittling, acting superior and all-knowing, and not enough on polite, civilized discourse for the fun of it. I mean, you wrote a lot more this time, but still said only 'I think pippy is a big idiot' over and over. I did not hear a very clear counter point, although it was a much better effort.
I will continue to be as calm and reserved as I can, since this is all very unimportant. Please, if you could consider being a little more polite and constructive with your debates. Otherwise I will have to treat the conversation as completed, for the sake of everyone we share this space with. Thank you very much for your time. It is all the more valuable when you share it with someone you think unworthy.
-Pip
@Kyu: This is number 6 I think, promise to stop after this one...
I understand that he could have chosen any phrase... But he chose one. Please, if you would be so kind as to explain the difference between a 'test-condition' and an 'end-result'? I understand that the actual phrase selected makes up a test condition, and am not disagreeing with that. But that one test condition was chosen, makes it, as far as intent, a end result of the test. Conclusion, if you will. Therefor, we could be both right.
And Adrian. Thank you for using even more colourful descriptors of your opinion of my state of logical thinking. You already know how much I look forward to reading those. I assure you, as I did before, that I read not only the Wiki page years ago, but a reference to the experiment, and the book itself as well. It seems you are having trouble learning a thing about the person you choose to argue with. I just appreciate the irony of people telling me I am not listening in a way that makes it seems like they are not listening. Only a creature as miraculous and complex as us humans could do something so grand.
And may I thank you again, for now posting a quote from the wiki I politely attempted to tell you I did not need a link posted too. As I have said, I am familiar with that wiki page, thank you. I hope you believe me when I insist that I feel I understand all the points you made. In fact, almost perfectly, they were the same points I made. But somehow I doubt you will assume that I took the time to read and try to understand, regardless.
I am not at all upset by your disagree-al, but I am disappointed in your quality of argument. I feel like you spend far too much energy belittling, acting superior and all-knowing, and not enough on polite, civilized discourse for the fun of it. I mean, you wrote a lot more this time, but still said only 'I think pippy is a big idiot' over and over. I did not hear a very clear counter point, although it was a much better effort.
I will continue to be as calm and reserved as I can, since this is all very unimportant. Please, if you could consider being a little more polite and constructive with your debates. Otherwise I will have to treat the conversation as completed, for the sake of everyone we share this space with. Thank you very much for your time. It is all the more valuable when you share it with someone you think unworthy.
-Pip
