(January 9, 2012 at 5:37 am)Koldaramor Wrote: kılıç_mehmet Wrote
>>I'm not really sure about that one though.
>>The Turks have converted to Islam over course of years.
>>The efforts of sufis have accomplished this.
Thats rigt. But in the end. The Turks accepted Islam after the Arab religion. Islam was the only labors. Therefore, in art, trade, science, technique, were back. They gave importance only to war. This is because of the wars have won many of the enemy. Example; Serbs Bulgarians, Russians, Greeks, Arabs, Shiites, Kurds, Armenians, British, French, etc.
Well, they would have been our enemies regardless, as we progressed to the west. Besides, we weren't the only Turkish nation to do so. The Huns had progressed to the west before we did.
Quote:I think that is what I (like many scientists and atheists) lament the most. These ancient civilisations are now nothing but backward religious theocratic nothings on the world stage. They could have been great but now they are nothing but 'religious, dirty, little, brown men' whilst the "Third World" is whooping their arse in advancementWell, you must be confusing us Turks with some lazy arabs down south.
Besides, we are a nato ally, 1st world.
Quote:So essentially Turkey, like all Islamic Nations are fucked technologically.Not so more than Spain, Italy or France, friend.
I know that it is tempting for your occidental mindset to picture some dirty people with turbans on their heads when you think of the name moslem, but it's befitting for someone that does not make much brainstorming on any event that goes around in the world I guess.
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