Atheism feels shunned...

[Purple Rabbit]

I don't think he does because he's not the one claiming free will exists. I agree with him.

Well EvF, does free will exist? And if so, how would you define it?

Um ... I already know he doesn't specifically claim it exists but more to the point it is YOU (as the presumed claimant) who does therefore just as we all do with the theists it is YOU that must define it and justify it's supposed existence. Ev doesn't have to justify a damned thing.

Kyu

Um.....that's very fine for you....but I don't know if he does or not. So it seems kind of a good idea to me to ask EvF himself what he thinks. And since your claim is that you have no free will but live some deterministic life with no place for identity why should I pay attention to your gratuite opinion at all? Exactly, no reason.

And for your information, although I see no way that you can make any decision on the information I give you without free will, I am not asking EvF to justify anything. I want to know what his definition of free will is, if he has any? Plain and simple. If you cannot see the difference between asking a definition and asking for justification, that's indicating some trouble in your deterministic world in which you cannot play any active role. So why worry about it? It's all determined already. So have a nice talk with the Googlebot that's roaming the premises here and good day to you.