(January 16, 2012 at 3:48 am)Godschild Wrote: That makes no sense at all, just what point are you trying to make with those verses. All that you have shown is the Jewish leaders hated Jesus.
Did you read my last sentence? Why did John say "the Jews" and not "the Pharasies" or "the Sadducees"?
The former has the Jewish leaders as a separate sect. The latter suggests a different denomination or splinter group, which at the time is what Jesus and his followers should have been.
The fact that the author of John clearly thought of "the Jews" as a sect separate and distinct from Jesus and his followers is evidence that the date of authorship is to a time when the two groups had already morphed into distinct sects.
Clear?
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