Do mimsy atheists gyre and gimble in the wabe?

[Pippy]

Hey,

Arcanus, thank you for posting. I would be happy to answer your questions.

Why do you expect atheists to conduct themselves with moral etiquette?

I expect everyone to conduct themselves with moral etiquette. I am not surprised when they don't, and that I do is an ideology, not a learned or reasoned behavior. I don't expect any less of Atheists, as I do believe that moral etiquette is not exclusive to theists. In fact, moral etiquette is lacking in most every place I can see. And, to be furthered later, I am not upset that they are not acting up to my, or common standards.

A person who is perplexed by ill-treatment from atheists is actually an idealist whose view is being confounded by reality.

I would hope that I am not an idealist confounded with reality, but I wouldn't really know, would I? I am far too close to the situation. I am not perplexed, that is a poor description of how I feel. I am not at all surprised. I have come to expect the things I have seen here. I am only upset that these guys (some much more than others) get all worked up themselves when you pretend to follow their moral example. A couple people were... rude to me, so I responded with (I felt) controlled rudeness. Then they are livid that I dare be rude back, and that I am not arguing on point. The only thing I am upset about, and then not very much so, is that I am being held to what are overwhelming and obvious double standards. If I had posted the "[expletive deleted] you [expletive deleted]" post, I would likely be chastised or banned (now that I am on thin ice). I don't care, it's not that I will only be happy when treated with respect, I am fine now. I only laugh at the absurdity of it all.

But I am rambling again. I don't see how my cynical mind state, or cynical behavior contradicts the (may be incorrect) fact that I am 'perplexed'. I am sure that it made sense when you wrote it, please re-explain if you want. I have faith that you make a good point, even when I don't understand it.

I appreciate you close, and for the first time in literally years I have to dust off the dictionary. I know a lot of words, but I just leaned a few more. You are right, I should just ignore any remark or post that doesn't have anything valid to say. Me and Kyu kind of enjoy working each other up. It is hard to tell who is being self-detrimental. I carried it on for a while because I felt Kyu was digging a hole, so I let him. I fully intend to not talk to him anymore though. Unless he has something of substance to say.

I appreciate your take on this little scene, and your time to share it. I hope I was able to clarify my motivators and feelings, but clarity is not my strength.

I am not stewing with anger, I just wanted to make it clear that in the world I live in, you can't act all illogical and boorish, and be taken as a wise and respectable debater. We will see how it all works out. I was surprised to find myself not banned this morning. One day at a time, like the drunks.

Thank you again,
-Pip