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9/11 Truthers
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RE: 9/11 Truthers
Quote:In response to Pippy, no, the decision wasn't "hard". I simply stopped listening to the propaganda of people who had no actual expertise in the field, and started listening to the rebuttals made by people in the field.

Me too. I found information from architects and structural engineers most informative.


I'm not at all surprised some of the conspiracy nutjobs still cling to their nonsense. They live in a closed logic system. Any evidence contradicting their mindset reinforces their paranoia..

A close look at the people making the claims is also useful in assessing credibility.Angel

What's "obvious" to me: Two planes crashed into the twin towers,which then collapsed. What is so hard to grasp about that? I've also read explanations from engineers who have explained clearly WHY the collapses occurred.

If you believe there was a 9/11 conspiracy within the US; PROVE IT.

Tangent:

I was convinced for about 20 years that the JFK assassination [at least] was the result of a conspiracy.

I made that conclusion based on the following;

The Zapruder tapes,which I've looked at frame by frame. Seemed to me that one of the shots came a different direction.

From the Jim Morrison examination the "magic bullet theory".


The assassination of Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby made no sense to me,it still doesn't, I don't understand his motive.

Finally there was the rifle and the mechanics of the shots. I was rated marksman with a 7.62mm SLR (semi automatic) rifle. The weapon Oswald allegedly used was 6.5mm a bolt action Carcano ,with a scope. I simply could not have made those shots (especially a head shot) with that weapon and seriously doubt I could have with an SLR with scope,within that time frame.In my opinion, the marksman would have to have been a trained sniper to have a chance.. I've seen no evidence that Oswald was so trained.

BUT BUT BUT

I finally realised my conclusion was based on classic conspiracy theory logic. On supposition and argument from personal incredulity,a form of argument from ignorance.Those are the basic flaws I've noticed in most conspiracy theories I've seen,from The Da Vinci Code to 9/11 and the [often hilarious] arguments against the moon landing...

As Freud famously did NOT say " Sometimes a cigars is only a cigar"
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9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 16, 2009 at 9:43 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Rockthatpiano06 - July 16, 2009 at 11:54 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 16, 2009 at 12:00 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Meatball - July 16, 2009 at 2:03 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 16, 2009 at 5:03 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by padraic - July 17, 2009 at 1:42 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Faith Tester - July 17, 2009 at 2:15 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by LEDO - July 17, 2009 at 6:49 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 17, 2009 at 7:58 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 17, 2009 at 10:45 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 17, 2009 at 2:56 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 17, 2009 at 4:30 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Faith Tester - July 17, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 17, 2009 at 5:00 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Edwardo Piet - July 17, 2009 at 5:19 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Samson - July 17, 2009 at 6:24 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 17, 2009 at 6:43 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Samson - July 19, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 17, 2009 at 8:56 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 18, 2009 at 12:57 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Matt85 - July 18, 2009 at 2:10 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 18, 2009 at 2:35 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Matt85 - July 18, 2009 at 7:05 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 18, 2009 at 7:09 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 18, 2009 at 7:20 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by LEDO - July 18, 2009 at 7:56 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Dotard - July 18, 2009 at 8:15 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 18, 2009 at 8:57 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 18, 2009 at 10:39 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 18, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 19, 2009 at 3:45 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 19, 2009 at 7:07 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 19, 2009 at 7:54 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by LEDO - July 19, 2009 at 4:57 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Samson - July 19, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by LEDO - July 19, 2009 at 6:29 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Meatball - July 19, 2009 at 7:24 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 20, 2009 at 3:06 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by LEDO - July 20, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 20, 2009 at 1:42 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Samson - July 20, 2009 at 4:13 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 20, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 20, 2009 at 5:58 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by LEDO - July 20, 2009 at 6:13 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 21, 2009 at 2:44 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 21, 2009 at 9:02 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 21, 2009 at 9:30 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 21, 2009 at 9:52 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 21, 2009 at 9:30 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 22, 2009 at 4:09 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 21, 2009 at 9:46 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by padraic - July 21, 2009 at 10:04 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 21, 2009 at 10:35 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 22, 2009 at 7:30 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 22, 2009 at 7:42 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 22, 2009 at 9:11 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 23, 2009 at 2:36 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by bozo - July 23, 2009 at 7:13 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 23, 2009 at 11:42 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 23, 2009 at 9:10 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Dotard - July 23, 2009 at 9:38 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Kyuuketsuki - July 25, 2009 at 6:47 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by leo-rcc - July 24, 2009 at 4:19 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by padraic - July 24, 2009 at 9:13 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 24, 2009 at 9:32 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Matt85 - July 28, 2009 at 9:01 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 29, 2009 at 8:41 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 29, 2009 at 9:24 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 29, 2009 at 11:32 pm
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 30, 2009 at 8:40 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 30, 2009 at 9:27 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Pippy - July 30, 2009 at 9:35 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Eilonnwy - July 30, 2009 at 9:50 am
RE: 9/11 Truthers - by Tiberius - July 30, 2009 at 12:24 pm

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