Do mimsy atheists gyre and gimble in the wabe?

[Kyuuketsuki]

Why is there a "significant" difference? To most of us here there is no difference at all (they're all pie in the sky, fairy gah gah land rubbish) so justify that point please.

Not all PsOV are worthy of respect and I see no particular reason to suspect a belief in an invisible man in the sky over a belief that the stars dictate some aspect of our personalities ... in fact I'd actually say that I lean a little in favour of the astrology inasmuch as I can envisage that gravity, fields, and so on could have some marginal effect on us (I don't actually believe it).

That you see no difference is extremely worrying, although I'd be glad you gave none attention rather than any (as I know you personally despise superstition as much as I do).

Oh indeed ... but let us be clear here, that includes YOUR superstitions.

So superstition (which is exactly what numerology and astrology are) I believe you and I can agree on.

I agree they are superstitions ...

Theology concerns non validatable assumptions but the purpose is completely opposite. As you don't accept the raison detre of theology it completely disarms you in this area. You have no developed thought (although I believe you do, you just deny it. moral choices for example.) to differentiate harmful superstition from beneficial theology.

... but that's just pure [expletive deleted]s! Again you advance the NTS argument i.e. that you have to be one to be able to validly critique.

You may adopt reasoned standpoint entirely by chance, because the contemplation of a component part of human nature is off limits to you. Science proves itself to be an inadequate comfort blanket when confronted with such problems. Perhaps that is why this forum exists. There's a vacuum to be filled.

There is no reason to suspect that science, at least potentially, is unable to answer questions about any aspect of our universe. You are doing exactly what Dawkins says you and your kind do ... claiming religion has a get-out-of-jail-free card ... I do not accept that any religious POV deserves that and you have yet to justify that it does.

Kyu

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I think it is foolish to forward that no benefit as ever come from theology. That is just my opinion.

I think there is benefit from religion in a societal sense in that it can make groups of people strong (united) in various ways and that sense of community is something atheists seem unable to achieve (although other secular ideals can). But I don't believe religion has any specific strength beyond that of a comfort blanket.

Kyu