RE: Do mimsy atheists gyre and gimble in the wabe?
July 18, 2009 at 8:19 am
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2009 at 8:57 am by Purple Rabbit.)
(July 17, 2009 at 6:03 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I didn't start or become a member of a forum on a subject I deny though.You became member of this forum on atheism, didn't you?
(July 17, 2009 at 5:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Haha!A clear fallacy. It is not a prerequisite to believe in numerology to be able to discuss and study it. Someone who denies the validity of numerology may in fact have the most deep knowledge about it. And for 'numerology' you can fill in any subject.
How can you discuss theology when you deny it at the same time?? Answer = you don't want to discuss it - you want to justify dismissing it and replace it with science which doesn't cover it. Ergo God can't exist because it doesn't fit scientific models.
In fact when theology is done from the perspective of a believer, it is likely to have elements of bias in it. The perspective of the believer therefore is less likely to give unbiased results.
(July 17, 2009 at 1:44 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The belief in Christianity, which promotes ideas like community, acceptance & forgiveness produces positive action more so than say, humanist belief which is largely ego centric would. Therefore christian theology is demonstrably beneficial.This shows that you're not familiar with the basics of humanism. Central to it is not atheism (in fact a theist can be a humanist!) but it is a world view that places humans and human values central.
fr0d0 Wrote:Of course with your (Purple Rabbit) examples you have to quote examples which go againt the theology to produce non beneficial results. This hardly counts.The purple rabbit example (which I write in non-capitals to distinguish it from my name here on this forum) is just a thought experiment that only serves the purpose to pinpont the claim in theology and other religious views of anthropocentric purposefullness. If there is purpose in this universe we live in, as claimed by theology, then what's the evidence for this? Where does the difference with accidental creation (such as in the puple rabbit scenario) show? The proof of burden to show the claim of puposefull creation is on your shoulders, for the evidence in nature clearly indicates indfifference to human needs.
(July 17, 2009 at 4:03 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Quick point: I don't claim that Christianity is the only source of good at all. That's very gracious of you to credit it as you do.Also, theology claims to have knowledge of absolute moral. This is part of moral dogma in theology. So,
claiming truth of theology is accepting chrsitian moral dogma.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0