(July 18, 2009 at 11:56 am)Jon Paul Wrote:(July 18, 2009 at 3:47 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Same thing as far as I can tell. As far as I know there are no objective truths ... care to tell us one or more?Exactly. You as an atheist are forced to acknowledge that there is no objective truth, due to the very epistemic structure of atheism. In other words, in the epistemic structure of atheism, atheism is not even true itself, nothing is true, because there is no truth. Truth is an abstraction of an ape-mind, which has no value beyond it's apparent predictive survival qualities (and even that is another abstraction of the brains chemistry which has no transcendent truth value). Everything is reduced to the brain chemistry, and nothing more.
But there is still both 1. Evidence and 2. Subjective morality.
And no evidence for any objective morality. It's not like being an atheist means there's not evidence for anything, or that subjective moral can't be moral. Truth doesn't have to be absolute and absolutely objective. There is evidence for many things, not for God. So no reason to believe he exists. Unless you can enlighten me.
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