(January 30, 2012 at 9:57 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Hello, and it depends how you define spiritual.
Oh absolutely. This is true of all our "words". Words are just labels used to convey concepts. Therefore a well-understood "definition" is paramount to facilitating that communication. Without a well-understood definition no communication can be achieved.
I confess that I use the term "spiritual" loosely. However, I can offer a deep scientific definition for the term (as I am using it). To make that brief allow me to simply say that a "spiritual" existence is simply any existence which goes beyond our scientific description of "physics".
In other words, a "spiritual" existence is simply a "non-physical" existence in terms of our modern understanding of what we mean by "physical".
Ironically our modern sciences have already established the existence of a "spiritual world" (by this definition).
Quantum Mechanics requires that information exists in a form that is beyond are ability to directly detect in any "physical" way. In fact, our best theory of the Big Bang (i.e. Inflation Theory) requires that the "laws" of Quantum Physics preexisted that Big Bang. The theory is entirely based on the assumption of those preexisting laws.
Well, those "laws" are necessarily "information". Therefore our most current modern scientific theories basically require that "information" preexists the physical world. Therefore, it's actually a modern scientific premise that a "spiritual world" must necessarily exist. (based on how I'm defining a spiritual world - i.e. a world that exists beyond the physical world that we commonly call "reality".)
So within the context of everything we currently know this definition works and this concept has been scientifically deduced to necessarily exist. Without it Quantum Mechanics would have no basis.
Hope that clarifies things a bit.
