RE: Veganism?
February 2, 2012 at 2:57 pm
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2012 at 3:04 pm by genkaus.)
(February 2, 2012 at 1:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yep, I don't want to be eaten. I hope that by not eating people I can show those around me (who are also hopefully not into eating people) that I'm not into eating people. If enough of us who aren't into eating people stick together, we will be hard people to eat. Until we get hungry....... Is this really so mysterious as to ask for a "logical explanation"?
I'm sure the deer don't want to be eaten either. That doesn't matter to the lion. It is possible for me to form a group of my own - of those who like to eat people (even if we do not want to be eaten ourselves). It is also possible that if we grew big enough or strong enough, we could eat people like you without any consequences or repercussions. But that does not answer the question of whether I should.
You are kind of missing the point here. The issue underlying veganism is a matter of morality. No one is saying whether you can or cannot eat other animals. You can. It is well within your capacity.
The question is - whether you should? The proponents of veganism would say that you should not, because it is immoral. Those opposed say that it is not immoral since it occurs in nature all the time. What I'm trying to determine here is a rational and objective criteria by which a person can determine whether he should eat a particular creature or not.
(February 2, 2012 at 1:40 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: If I am trapped on a desert island with no food, you can bet your sweet ass I will become a canibal..
I will eat the vegans first...because they eat the food that my food eats, which makes them closer to food in my opinion.
And why should I wait to be trapped on a deserted island? If I can find a way to get away with it, why shouldn't I start being a cannibal right here and now?
(February 2, 2012 at 2:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:is there a rational reason as to why I shouldn't kill and eat other people?
It being against the law is not enough of a reason?
It being against the law is a reason for me to find a way to escape the legal consequences rather than giving up on cannibalism.
Assuming that I can get away with it, why shouldn't I go ahead and do it?
