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Veganism?
RE: Veganism?
(February 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:
(February 3, 2012 at 10:37 am)DreadLock Wrote: vegetarian food is proven to be more healthy
http://www.vegetariantimes.com/resources/why_go_veg/

also check out this links
http://healthandfitnesstimes.com/why-go-vegetarian/897/
http://features.peta.org/VegetarianStarterKit/

So a magazine called "vegetarian times" has said that vegetarian food is proven to be more healthy?

You dont say?

I read on Creation ministries International that Creationism is backed by science.

If Iwere to immediately switch over to a vegan lifestyle right now I would put my body at a health risk. Switching to veganism is so risky that I would suggest people NOT do it. But if they feel they HAVE to do it (for whatever religious or pseudo religious purposes they have for the conversion), then I would highly suggest that you change to it slowly and gradually while being monitored by a doctor or a nutritionist.

Also, once you flip over to a Vegan lifestyle, it is best that you find some good supplements to make up for the Vegan lack of certain minerals and vitamins that a healthy omnivorous diet used to give you. Here is a list of vitamins that are also stamped "vegan approved"

http://www.thriftyvegan.com/vitamin.html...7Qod5Tut3w

Do any people see veganism as different from vegeterianism?

Anyway, I think that for most people, veganism would be the healthier option. Meat and other animal products are primarily sources of proteins, carbs and fats - things we do not require as much now as the early man did when he developed a taste for meat.

Living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle is a very active lifestyle and requires a lot of energy. Energy which would not be sufficiently provided by a vegan lifestyle. But we do not live that life anymore and those needs could easily be met by vegan diet.

I agree, I have a personal bias in the matter. I've seen a lot of people around me who had to go strictly vegetarian due to heart problems. Someday, I might have to do so too, but not yet, since I like meat too much. Either way, I would consider a vegetarian diet a healthier diet.
(February 3, 2012 at 1:06 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: All rights are arbitrary. Every single right on that constitution was voted up or down by people.

So if all the theists got together and arbitrarily decided to take away the rights of atheists - that would be okay too?

If you do not know what concepts your rights are based on, how do you propose to defend them when they are threatened?

(February 3, 2012 at 1:06 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: But no, ultimately NOTHING is stopping you from eating humans. In this world, ANYTHING goes...rights are merely opinions that people have voted to agree upon.

And agreement can be revoked just as easily. On what grounds would you fight the revocation if you think the agreement was arbitrary in the first place? On what grounds would you convince others to fight beside you?
(February 3, 2012 at 1:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Right now, I'm not free to kill and eat anyone I want because of the constitutional "right to life" given to every human being.


What "right" is that?

All 50 states have statutes against murder, though.

The right to life. Statute against murder is based on that right.
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