(February 5, 2012 at 1:19 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: Where did I ever suggest any such nonsense? That's utter baloney.
You have totally misunderstood my position. I didn't mean that you should create a fantasy that flies in the face of what is already known to be true!
If I made a mistake it was the mistake of assuming that you'd already be at least that intelligent.
No, the fantasy you imagine for a spiritual world must at least be plausible with everything that you already know to be true. Absolutely!
I personally can create such an imagined spiritual world. If others have trouble doing that, I can only guess that they lack imagination.
As long as I can keep it plausible then it must necessarily remain within the world of possibility and that's all I require.
If I can imagine a plausible spiritual essence to reality, then it can't be ruled out. And that's sufficient grounds to believe that such a scenario is within the realm of possibility.
You said - "Spirituality is the ability to imagine beyond the restrictions of reason."
If your "spiritual world" is required to be plausible according to reality, then it is not beyond the restrictions of reason. If it is beyond restrictions of reason, then there is nothing preventing it from being implausible. Make up your mind. You cannot have it both ways.
(February 5, 2012 at 1:19 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: No, I've never told anyone any such thing. Where did you come up with that? Clearly you are jumping to grossly incorrect conclusions about my thoughts and position on things.
I said to be creative and imagine fantasies (but I confess I should have been more specific and said to imagine Plausible Fantasies.
I just assumed that intelligent people would know better than to imagine implausible fantasies.
Shame on me!
Your formulation of "spiritual essence" of reality is not only implausible but illogical. According to you, it might be independent of any physical constraint. That is illogical. Nothing that exists can be independent of physical existence.
Which is why assumed that you are okay with people believing in implausible fantasies.
