(February 5, 2012 at 2:37 pm)genkaus Wrote: You said - "Spirituality is the ability to imagine beyond the restrictions of reason."
If your "spiritual world" is required to be plausible according to reality, then it is not beyond the restrictions of reason. If it is beyond restrictions of reason, then there is nothing preventing it from being implausible. Make up your mind. You cannot have it both ways.
Sure I can.
What are you calling reality?
Can you explain the unreasonable behavior observed in the quantum world?
Here's what the Nobel Prize-winning physicist on Quantum Mechanics has to say about it.
"Do not keep saying to yourself, if you can possibly avoid it, 'How can it be like that?' because you will go 'down the drain', into a blind alley from which nobody has yet escaped." - Richard Feynman
It's totally unreasonable, and no one has been able to give a reasonable explanation for it yet. As far as we know, the true nature of reality is totally beyond anything that we might consider to be "reasonable".
So where do you get off demanding that reality must be "reasonable"?
Where is it written in the stars that the true nature of reality must be "reasonable" in terms of human comprehension?
(February 5, 2012 at 2:37 pm)genkaus Wrote: Your formulation of "spiritual essence" of reality is not only implausible but illogical. According to you, it might be independent of any physical constraint. That is illogical. Nothing that exists can be independent of physical existence.
Do you have a proof of that?
If you do, I suggest that you present it to the scientific community ASAP, you will definitely be world-famous instantly.
Quote:Which is why assumed that you are okay with people believing in implausible fantasies.
Evidently we just disagree on what we consider to be "plausible".
As far as I'm concerned you're putting demands and restrictions on the true nature of reality that simply haven't been established. That's just wishful thinking on your part.
Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
