(February 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: You are thinking reductionistically like Western philosophers.
I am thinking holistically like Eastern philosophers.
No, I cannot imagine any structure existing without some consciousness being involved. That very notion makes no sense at all. If there is no awareness that such a structure exists, then what sense does it even make to speak about it existing?
In fact, this is a basic premise of Eastern Mysticism.
Yes, that is the basic false premise of eastern mysticism. Speaking about their existence is irrelevant. Awareness about the existence is irrelevant. If existence depended on consciousness, then we'd be living in chaotic and arbitrary world of miracles as described in holy books, not in the rational and ordered world we currently live in.
(February 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: What you don't understand is that your arrogant beliefs are never going to be imposed upon me.
Because you continue to evade reality.
(February 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: I've already pissed away your epistemological argument
Yes, you have been pissing quite a lot.
(February 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: and demonstrated that your limited premises and axioms don't even apply to my philosophy.
Yes, they are applicable to philosophy of the real world, not imaginary one.
(February 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: And according to you, that was your strongest argument.
Nope, the argument was not mine.
(February 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: So we're done.
You're assertion that I must accept your epistemological primacy of existence axiom failed.
Only if you are to be rational. Which you have demonstrated you have no interest in being. As I notice, you have not replied to any arguments talking about how primacy of existence would still be applicable to your imaginary spirit world. You simply chose to ignore them.
(February 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: I'm not interested in listening to your secondary arguments as you try frantically to grasp at straws to come up with something better.
That's because you are not interested in reality.