(February 16, 2012 at 9:00 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:(February 16, 2012 at 7:06 am)LastPoet Wrote: They don't even do that DP. Their arguments are a mockery to Philosophy and anyone truly interested in aprehending reality.
Point well taken. I should have asked, "do they ever offer anything other than pseudo-philosophical arguments?"
This is a sincere question.
You won't like this any better but what I hear theists say is that "they have seen God moving in their lives". That isn't an argument of course but I suppose it is "anything".
What I really think they're getting at is that in trying to understand the world and themselves, they find they need God for it all to 'make sense'. You have to realize they are brought up in a system in which all the adults around them act as though their imaginary friend is right there with them. So, Christians at least, grow up with an ongoing internal dialogue with God. When you think of how a writer can get into the voice of a new character, it isn't too hard how they could come to see God's end of the dialogue as genuinely apart from their own thinking.
My idea of an ideal theist or deist would be one that cops to all science, regards all holy books critically, admits they have no objective evidence and yet simply affirms the presence of their deity/god or whatever based on their bare intuition. I couldn't and wouldn't argue with that.
