(February 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I explained how natural disasters, disease, etc, give opportunity towards a heroic spirit.
Yes, and I explained, that in order for this to be the case, they are excessive to requirements in order to create a situation for people to show heroism.
Not only that, but in addition, this simple fact of excessive to requirements shows that a God in this situation is either absent, or ambivalent to evil. In order for your thesis to be true, evil must be in the goldilocks zone of evil. The world cannot be too evil, or not evil enough.
As a counter thesis, I would also state that the heroism to stand against the prevailing view also stands for the evil inflicted by religion itself. Which may well be true to a pissed off deist god who sees everyone "got the wrong idea". Still doesn't answer why he is absent, or ambivalent to the excessive evils of this world.
We certainly don't want to solve world starvation now! Good god, how would we show our political charity to condemn those that rely on it.
Quote:.... is because nationalism plays a force to overcome in supporting justice
I need more detail on this. I'm reading that as "God must just love it when countries start wars based on conflicting political ideologies, because gosh, they are so heroic in standing up for their nationalism."
I'm sure thats NOT what you mean.
Whose nationality exactly are we talking about. Does God have a favourite?
Quote:I believe much of the world is, which is why it's more heroic when you overcome that. It's the same with being just and supporting justice.
I refer to my earlier point. Its excessive to requirements. It seems clear there is more than enough suffering to go around and show my moral character to overcome a "cold-heart" to suffering.
Why, in this theory.. .is it excessive to requirement.
Or god doesn't have anything to do with the actual evil.....
He just likes to watch.
Thats creepy as hell.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm