RE: Suggestions for atheist framework
February 23, 2012 at 5:56 am
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2012 at 6:48 am by NoMoreFaith.)
(February 22, 2012 at 12:04 am)AndrewT Wrote: I have one friend in particular that i am trying to find a "healthy" atheist communities or phylosopher for to help him find his own meaning with out needing to use or convert to Christianity.
I heartily recommend thinking. Thinking about your own meaning is usually the best way to do that.
Quote:Who are the more renowned atheist philosophers who have made moves toward a framework that helps a person struggling to find meaning to life?
Thats a long exhaustive list I'm afraid, Bernard Williams is always a good starting point in terms of moral philosophy.
Quote:I want to make a very superficial observation about this community. It seems you spend more time trying to convince each other of that God does not exist than working through issues of meaning with each other.
As a new member I have to say, I haven't really been involved in a single sensible religious discussion. I'm not counting one where they seemed a little unhinged and resorted to 'Lying for Jesus'.
Mostly political issues. Any issues of meaning you want to start would almost certainly be discussed if you wish to start one.
It's been mentioned that there is a reason the word Afaeism doesn't exist (my guess at what lack of belief in faeries would be), and the same goes for atheism, its not a world view or philosphy, its simply lack of belief in God. If belief in faeries was taken seriously, then Afaeism would have to exist too, but it presumes no moral or philosophical views by not believing in faeries? DUCY?
Starting with the presupposition that you require God for meaning and morality is the only reason you presume Atheism is required to give meaning and morality as well, which is entirely inaccurate.
Atheism is lack of belief in God, people consider and adopt, and come up with for themselves various moral system. Personally I agree with Secular Humanism in most areas, and as for meaning, I have two wonderful children, a wife I love more than anything, and a constant sense of wonder and surprise at this universe and world around us... it always surprises me that anyone needs more meaning than this.
You seem like a pleasant and rational chap, so if you have any issues you would like this melting pot of ideologies to comment on, I urge you to do so.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
